--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 7, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > > > > > The pattern since getting involved with Waking Down is that I keep > > > revisiting the same stuff over and over again in cycles of pressure > > > and release. And, I feel into it a bit deeper in each pressure cycle. > > > Thing is, this stuff is all I've known for more than 30 years. I don't > > > even know what's innate and what's conditioned. And, I don't know how > > > to "work with it" other than just be with whatever is holding my > > > attention. > > > > Sounds like you found one of the evolutionary reasons for > > "witnessing" which is if you can witness, you can go into that state > > and let the tape loops roll and let the unconscious pour its crapola > > (without being involved in the mind-sewer). Then you're no longer > > feeding the loops. If you're experiencing them as suffering, there > > are probably still elements where you separate from them through > > aversion ("pushing away"). > > > > You have a number of choices: witness and remain uninvolved or be so > > spacious, it's all one and there is no separation. > > > > One way I work with this type of pattern is to invoke them in > > dreaming sleep and then freeze them. Believe me, if you use your > > *utter annoyance* at the repetition of the tape loops to inspire your > > focus, you can get the dream to stop. It's just a karmic VCR and > > you're the only one with the remote. Then just hold the loop elements > > in your awareness till they open, relax and go away. Then you might > > go to another set of loops, but hopefully one that is either so long > > you aren't annoyed by it's constant repetitions or it's content is > > simply more livable without having to resort to witnessing. Or it may > > completely open up. The best antitode IME is non-dual meditation, > > eyes open, in a unified state and let the clouds come and go. If > > there is no separation, there is no possible tension and so the loops > > resolve, of themselves, by themselves, like a snake untying itself > > from a knot. > > > > But that's not TM witnessing.
Yeah, so what? Neither Vaj nor I are talking about TM on this thread.
