--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Mr. Magoo" <wgm4u@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Mr. Magoo" <wgm4u@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <rick@> 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In the intro to Love and God, p. 11, with reference to 
Guru Dev,
> > > > > Maharishi says "We only pray Him to keep on guiding us," 
implying 
> > > > > that he considers Guru Dev to still be playing a active 
role from 
> > > > > wherever he is.
> > > > 
> > > > MMY says, "We only pray...", he doesn't say he IS!! MMY may 
or may 
> > > > not know, or it may be presumptous for him to say. Whether 
Swami
> > > > Brahmananda took on a 'Bodhisattva' role in the governence 
of the
> > > > Universe is speculative at best and CLEARLY has nothing to 
do with
> > > > 'awareness' spoken of in the puja!
> > > 
> > > Have you ever heard Maharishi admit to the possibility
> > > of someone who is enlightened dying and taking on a 
> > > 'Bodhisattva' role? I sure haven't. I remember one long
> > > lecture in which he went on and on and on saying that
> > > the *only* possibility for what happens to an enlight-
> > > ened being when they die is that "the drop returns to 
> > > the ocean," and he said definitely in that talk (in 
> > > response to several direct questions) that there was 
> > > *no* possibility of an enlightened being ever incarnating 
> > > again in any form -- human or subtle.
> > > 
> > > Now I don't personally believe this, but that's what the
> > > man said. But then he has waffled on many subjects before,
> > > so it's possible that he later recanted and allowed for
> > > there being more possibilities than the one he was adamant
> > > about in that talk. Has anyone here ever heard Maharishi 
> > > speak of anything other than "the drop returns to the 
> > > ocean" model?
> > > 
> > > I'm mentioning it because if no one has, then Jim's claim
> > > to have "met" Guru Dev would seem to imply that Maharishi
> > > was...uh...wrong.
> > > 
> > > Either that or it's possible that Jim was...uh...wrong,
> > > and what he "met" was the aftereffects of one of his
> > > burger and margarita feasts. :-)
> > 
> > In the broader context, I think a Master can reconstitute 
> > his form at any time, the essence (consciousness) is the 
> > same. Even Christ appeared to his disciples after the 
> > Resurrection. Form is not soul!
> 
> I don't disagree with you in the least. What I was
> asking is whether anyone here has ever heard *Maharishi*
> say this, or anything like it. I ask because I and others
> here (if I remember correctly) have heard him say the
> exact opposite.
>
He didn't want to freak out people like you. Sorry.

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