"> The personal dig aside, Offworld makes the point
> (which Barry chooses, of course, not to address,
> because it refutes his and Curtis's position so
> conclusively) succinctly: the implications of the
> term "homeless" in its common usage simply don't
> apply to Guru Dev.
> 
> Another way of putting it might be, "Home is where
> the heart is."

Here in DC guys living in National Parks are counted as homeless or
transient.  They don't have jobs, don't support the community with
taxes, and don't own or rent real estate.  Many of the guys in our
area are super religious and believe that they have direct
communication with God.  They are unable to cope with society.  Here
in the US we don't give them an exemption because they have strong
beliefs.  I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that Guru Dev was any
different when he was living in the woods.  The fact that he became
revered as a living God later says more about the culture he lived in
than any personal qualities he may have had.

I was interested that the site tried to use miracles as a way to
support the idea that he was special.  Do you think he had a magic way
of gaining funds?  Do you believe that a tiger walking past him was
evidence of his special relationship of nature?  Do you think that the
President of India calling the head of his largest voting base grand
names makes it more likely to be so?

I am purposely using the terms of my culture and perspective on his
life.  I am not in his culture and don't have any reason to adapt the
perspective of people who have bought into his mythology.  

Guru Dev was a fascinating guy.  There are a lot of ways to view his
life.  




--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <no_reply@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ...there is a
> > > > > big difference between someone like Guru Dev and someone like 
> > > > > Turpuiose B.
> > > > 
> > > > Out of curiosity, what do you consider that difference
> > > > to be?
> > > 
> > > The former lived in the forest and exhibited acumen and 
> > > conviction, the latter is homeless, scattered, and 
> > > directionless.
> > > 
> > > I would have thought those facts were obvious.
> > 
> > You forgot to call me a drunk, but thanks for clarifying.
> 
> The personal dig aside, Offworld makes the point
> (which Barry chooses, of course, not to address,
> because it refutes his and Curtis's position so
> conclusively) succinctly: the implications of the
> term "homeless" in its common usage simply don't
> apply to Guru Dev.
> 
> Another way of putting it might be, "Home is where
> the heart is."
>


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