--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If one of Curtis's street people were successful
> in these respects, it would be awfully difficult
> not to view them as "special."
> 
> (Or let's say "remarkable," since "special" has
> acquired such negative baggage on this forum.)
> 
> I think we are missing each other on this point.  He was a 
fascinating
> guy. I probably would connect with him on his love of nature.  I 
don't
> see any evidence for him being more amazing then a lot of other
> religious leaders upholding the status quo even if it includes the
> cruelty of the caste system.  I think you are over focusing on my
> bringing up the fact of his homelessness.

And not getting the medical attention he needed,
as I recall.

Curtis, when you suggest that a very prominent
spiritual leader was mentally ill and homeless,
it's such astonishing assertion, particularly when
it goes against everything we know about Guru
Dev, that it's going to be the focus of attention
as long as you continue to start from that notion
in your evaluation of him.

  That doesn't make him less
> interesting, it makes him more.  Especially when coupled with your
> point about how he pulled of the Shankaracharya gig.
> 
> So I'll give him special and remarkable (although not
> necessarily for the reasons he is revered in TMO), but
> he doesn't' get divine.  Is that fair?

I think you ought to withdraw the "homeless" and
"mentally ill" allegations.  

"Divine," I don't care about one way or the other.



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