--- peterklutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "peterklutz"
> <peterklutz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > > During my lifetime I have had conversations
> > > > with bums, with whores and pimps, with a
> murderer
> > > > (who was a TMer, by the way), with atheists
> and
> > > > with total materialists. Not ONE of them was
> any
> > > > less "spiritual" than any of the "spiritual"
> people
> > > > I've met in over 40 years of spiritual
> seeking. And
> > > > to be honest, most of them were nicer people
> than
> > > > the people I know who consider themselves
> spiritual.
> > > 
> > > I wonder what the editors on this list will make
> of this 
> > > oxymoronic passage? The only TMers that qualify
> as nice 
> > > and spiritual are those that have killed other
> people?
> > 
> > Well, he *was* nicer than many TMers I've met.
> Really 
> > sweet guy. 
> > 
> > It was in Las Vegas. I was dating another TMer who
> 
> > was visiting her parents there, and so I drove out
> from
> > L.A. to spend a little time with her (she didn't
> live in 
> > L.A.). Because I was working for the Regional
> Office at 
> > the time, they asked me to give an advanced
> lecture at 
> > the local TM center, and I did. And I met some
> wonderful 
> > people there, including this big guy who, I was
> told, 
> > hadn't missed a weekly advanced lecture since he'd
> 
> > started TM a couple of years before. 
> > 
> > And so after the lecture we're all standing around
> talking
> > and drinking punch and eating cookies. Me and the
> big guy 
> > had some wonderful discussions about meditation,
> about 
> > enlightenment, and about reincarnation. And then
> someone 
> > brought up this radio DJ in L.A. who had been
> giving TM a 
> > hard time. This was at the beginning of the "Is TM
> a religion" 
> > court cases, and the DJ was definitely taking the
> "Yes" 
> > position on the air -- often, and as if it were
> some kind
> > of crusade for him. Later that evening, the big
> guy took me 
> > aside from the rest of the group and said to me,
> "You know, 
> > something could *happen* to this DJ if you want."
> > 
> > I thought he was joking and I laughed it off and
> said, "No,
> > I don't think that'll be necessary," and we went
> back to
> > the other meditators and had a grand old time.
> > 
> > Later I mentioned it to my ladyfriend and she told
> me what
> > the fellow did for a living there in Las Vegas,
> and that he 
> > hadn't been joking. It turns out that if you grow
> up in
> > Vegas, you pretty much know all the "made" guys in
> town by
> > sight.
> > 
> > True story. Very weird. Don't know quite what to
> make of it 
> > to this day. The guy was jolly and outgoing, sorta
> like Tony
> > Soprano on TV when he's laughing and joking with
> his family.
> > Go figure. I mean, go fucking figure.
> >
> 
> Perhaps our friend Dr Peter can offer an hypothesis?
> Early life trauma
> ... memory/personality compartmentalization ... ?

Who knows. Just a regularly meditating sociopath.



 
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