BTW, I noticed you switch between multiple names to continue posting  
numbers low: matrixmonitor, coshlnx, hyperbolic geometry, etc. , etc.  
I feel that should be illegal. It's dishonest.


On Mar 20, 2007, at 6:30 PM, coshlnx wrote:

> ---We've gone over this before, dead horse. All depends on how you
> defdefine "Enlightenment".
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>  In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> On Mar 20, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
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>>> Here's a couple of my pennies on the above subject (and thanks to
>>> everyone who has weighed in on it).  As many others have pointed out
>>> before, "Realization" implies that whatever It Is, It *already* Is
>>> and at some point It recognizes That.
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>> There's also a pervasive sense, on recognition of the nondual, that
>> it was always this way.
>>
>> And of course, if it has a beginning in time, it is not nondual. ;-)
>>
>> The Buddha's first words after nirvana: 'we're all already
> enlightened.'
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