--- In [email protected], Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Turq, > > Let me be playful here and see if this very fine work of yours > below can be doubted too. (Emphasis on the words playful and fine.)
I certainly hope it can. I'm not selling anything. As a former spiritual teacher of mine once said, "Writers write because they're trying to figure things out. That's all I'm doing here. Caveat lector. > Might give us some insight into Maharishi and others who have > taken on that terrible burden: dhoti, divan, and divination. Their problem, not mine. :-) > Just keep hearing me giggling in the background as you read, > and be ready to praise me for the tremendous effort it requires > for me to disagree with your concepts. I'm hoping to neutralize > your words so that my nervous system will, as if, have never > identified with your words, and thus I will be freed thereby > from attachment to your, oh-so-sweet, "truths." Whatever floats your boat. Me, I...uh...doubt that I'm going to have much to say about them. > TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > It seems to me, based on my reading here and on a > > number of other spiritual forums, that a lot can be > > learned about spiritual movements and about the > > spiritual seekers within them by how they respond > > to the "D" word -- DOUBT. > > I doubt it. As if any insight into anything can be achieved by > merely having the ego using the intellect as a flashlight to > shine into the back of God's mind. You forget that you're talking to someone who doesn't believe in a God, or at least not one with a "mind" or a will of its own. :-) > As if whatever came out of anyone's mouth could > be read like yarrow stalks. As if "a lot" about any spiritual > movement could be as small as merely knowing how some members > of the group react in a deeply negative way towards doubters. I think a LOT can be learned about a spiritual movement from how it deals with doubters. If it deals with them less than gracefully, for example, I for one am never going to get involved with them. :-) > As if anyone could be such an expert psychologist that a few > samplings of a few of the group's members could be definitive. With regard to TM and several other come-down-hard-on- doubt movements, it's FAR from "a few." It's the whole bloody "program." > Would anyone here want the TM movement to be judged by examining > the self-serving doubts of the likes of DeAngelis, Gray, > Bloomfield or by examining the doubts of the likes of me? I certainly would. The value of a spiritual teaching is in the *students*, not in the teaching itself. If they're full of shit, so is the teaching. IMHO, of course. :-) That's all I have the time or the interest to read right now. No offense, dude, but it's software release time for me, and that takes precedence over everything else. Hope that you continue to have fun... Unc
