--- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> >   
> >> --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter
> >>> <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>> Ha! Who gives a flying f*** what their birth
> time
> >>>>         
> >>> is?
> >>>       
> >>>> What great difference does it make in one's
> life?
> >>>>         
> >>> Just
> >>>       
> >>>> live your life. Just another aspect of yogi
> >>>>         
> >>> bondage to
> >>>       
> >>>> be terrified about. "Oh no! Did I breath out of
> >>>>         
> >>> time
> >>>       
> >>>> with my jyotish?"
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >>> uh-oh! what direction were you facing when you
> said
> >>> that?!
> >>>       
> >> Must have been south! But seriously, will someone
> >> please tell me in no uncertain terms exactly what
> the
> >> value of jyotish is, not in theory, but in actual
> >> practice? The most impressive thing I ever saw in
> >> jyotish is when Charlie Heath predicted a car
> accident
> >> I got into about a month after his prediction.
> But,
> >> his prediction didn't allow me to stop the
> accident,
> >> so what good was it? 
> >>
> >>     
> > Predicting accidents obviously has no value,
> unless you know the 
> > exact timing and can stay at home.  What makes
> Maharishi Jyotish 
> > unique is that it can "prevent the dangers that
> have not yet come" by 
> > using precious stones and yagyas.
> BS, remedial measures such as gems and yagyas are
> NOT unique to 
> Maharishi Jyotish.  Those as well as other remedial
> measures such as 
> simple charitable acts  have been commonly used for
> centuries by 
> astrologers to prevent catastrophic events and
> improve the person's 
> situation.  Anytime the movement tells you they have
> something unique 
> hold on to your wallet.

And how do precious stones and yagyas "avert the
danger  that has not yet arisen" (by the way this is a
complete and total distortion of Patanjali. He states
that the danger is the identification of the seer with
the seen-avidya, not some relative discomfort.) Forget
the theory. Show me some empirical proof that a yagya
does something? Show me that a gem does something?



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