Peter wrote:
> --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> nablusoss1008 wrote:
>>
>>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter
>>>
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter
>>>>> <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ha! Who gives a flying f*** what their birth
>>>>>>
>> time
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> is?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> What great difference does it make in one's
>>>>>>
>> life?
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> live your life. Just another aspect of yogi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> bondage to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> be terrified about. "Oh no! Did I breath out of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> time
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> with my jyotish?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> uh-oh! what direction were you facing when you
>>>>>
>> said
>>
>>>>> that?!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Must have been south! But seriously, will someone
>>>> please tell me in no uncertain terms exactly what
>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>> value of jyotish is, not in theory, but in actual
>>>> practice? The most impressive thing I ever saw in
>>>> jyotish is when Charlie Heath predicted a car
>>>>
>> accident
>>
>>>> I got into about a month after his prediction.
>>>>
>> But,
>>
>>>> his prediction didn't allow me to stop the
>>>>
>> accident,
>>
>>>> so what good was it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Predicting accidents obviously has no value,
>>>
>> unless you know the
>>
>>> exact timing and can stay at home. What makes
>>>
>> Maharishi Jyotish
>>
>>> unique is that it can "prevent the dangers that
>>>
>> have not yet come" by
>>
>>> using precious stones and yagyas.
>>>
>> BS, remedial measures such as gems and yagyas are
>> NOT unique to
>> Maharishi Jyotish. Those as well as other remedial
>> measures such as
>> simple charitable acts have been commonly used for
>> centuries by
>> astrologers to prevent catastrophic events and
>> improve the person's
>> situation. Anytime the movement tells you they have
>> something unique
>> hold on to your wallet.
>>
>
> And how do precious stones and yagyas "avert the
> danger that has not yet arisen" (by the way this is a
> complete and total distortion of Patanjali. He states
> that the danger is the identification of the seer with
> the seen-avidya, not some relative discomfort.) Forget
> the theory. Show me some empirical proof that a yagya
> does something? Show me that a gem does something?
>
In theory it is the vibrational rate of the gems that help. Yagyas are
akin to meditation and are formulas that also create a vibrational
effect tied to the person who it is being performed for. Empirical
science is too primitive to test these things. Someday maybe. What has
been found is anecdotal that people who used the remedials the effect
was lessened or moderated compared to what should have happened. You
can't test for these things unless you had two parallel universes where
the remedial was performed for one with the exact same circumstances and
not performed for one in the parallel universe. Since some of the
remedials like the charities don't cost anything to perform it is worth
a try and no one is making any money off them.
