Ok, there are a lot of guns around already. Does that mean we need to have even
more?
The Cho guy didn't get a gun from somebody that owned already a gun (like a
parent). He bought a new one, with a procedure that lasted a couple of
minutes. Buying a car would have taken much more red tape.
Most of the people that have a gun would like to keep them, right?
So is the problem the guns that are stashed somewhere away or having more
guns being delivered to the market ?
If the first problem is very difficult to solve, the second problem would be
very easy to solve adopting gun control aws that are the same than in the rest
of the world.
TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <claudiouk@> wrote:
> >
> > But returning to the US scenario - I CAN'T see any
> > justification for people holding on to arms. They
> > would NOT stop an undemocratic "coup" or restore
> > democracy through violence. Governments these days
> > are just TOO powerful.
>
> Couldn't agree more.
I agree, too, but that's not the point. The point
is that there are *already* almost three hundred
million guns in America, owned by almost 80 million
people. And that's just the *registered* guns.
Forget the liberal claptrap like, "We should just
get rid of the guns." That's bullshit. Tell us HOW
you intend to "get rid of the guns." I'll wait.
Every gun owner I know in the U.S. *already* has
plans for how to hide their guns in the event of
a "government recall" of them. They *already* have
phony sales certificates "proving" that they sold
the good guns at a legal private auction, and they
have spare "guvmint guns" that aren't worth a damn
that they could turn over to the cops without missing
them. The real guns, the ones they intend to hold
onto NO MATTER WHAT THEIR GUVMINT SAYS,
will be safely stashed somewhere long before any-
one comes to the door asking for them.
And these are...gawd help me...decent, law-abiding
citizens. We're talking doctors and lawyers and
schoolteachers and musicians and computer scientists
and divinity students and other such low-lives.
Now think about all of the millions of *unregistered*
guns in the hands of people who are *not* quite so
decent and law-abiding. How're you going to even
find those guns, much less get rid of them?
So, next time anyone spouts a bunch of idiocy like,
"What we need to do is get rid of the guns," you turn
to the idiot and say, "HOW?" And then wait.
They'll never get back to you with an answer, because
THEY DON'T HAVE ONE. They're just talking
through their hats.
The American love affair with their guns is older and
far more powerful than any of the half-witted liberal
suggestions for how to end it. It's just not a solve-
able problem ON THE LEVEL OF THE GUNS. The guns
are here to stay. There is nothing the government of
the United States could do TO "round them up." Can't
ever happen.
So any "solution" to the gun problem has to be on the
level of dealing with the people who *use* these guns
to kill other people. Me, I don't *know* what would
work. The gun owners are frightened people, and they
are much more afraid of the things they think they
"need" their guns for than they are of the laws that
might land them in jail for keeping them or carrying
them. If someone passed a law that would put them in
jail for 20 years for using a gun in self defense,
they would keep their guns and carry them anyway.
It's a HORRIBLE problem. And, like most horrible
problems, it doesn't have any simple answer. Those
who keep saying that there *are* simple answers are
making themselves appear simple by saying it.