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--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will address this to judyjim who seem to have formed a symbiotic > entity of malice toward me personally. > > From the ages of 16 through 31 I explored the teachings of MMY. I did > it with the enthusiasm and commitment that I needed to experience the > states of mind his programs bring. At age 31 I began a process of > re-evaluating my experiences from outside MMY's system and found those > explanations to be more useful to me, and to my mind more truthful. > In other words, I changed my mind due to new information and > perspectives as I grew up. It was a long process and came at a cost, > but it was worth it. As I have said many times, I do not regret my > experiences with MMY's teachings. I gained all sorts of value from > those years. But I also look at the movement and its leader's > self-importance as ridiculous and a good subject for humor. > > Judyjim have presented a criticism of my total commitment and sincere > efforts when I was a part of organization a few times here, as if > following MMY's strictest programs, sidhaland and MIU was a personal > failure of mine. They also point to my willingness to share my new > perspective with those who were interested as if this too reveals a > defect in my character. > > The attempt to paint my life as "troubled" because I was sincerely > focused on MMY's teachings for 15 years, and since 1989 have > expressed another point of view on his teaching, is lame. Rather then > discussing ideas, it is the last resort to attempt to attack the > person rather than an argument. It is the lowest form of discourse. > It takes neither imagination or intellectual insight. > > To Judy: You have brought up the idea that when I fight back when > personally attacked here, it is a flaw in my "nice guy image". This > is a contrivance of your own invention. I am not a nice guy to people > who attack me. I fight back when I feel it is appropriate. I am nice > to people who treat me with respect and have the ability to discuss > ideas without making it a personal attack. I will always point out > when a person is being rude to me or attacking me personally. Your > continued hostility towards me personally speaks for itself about your > personal values. I do not share them. > > To Jim: If you can search on my name you can search what ad hominem > attacks are. Your use of them undermines any hope you may have as > coming across as a thoughtful advocate of your point of view. > > My point of view is based on my perspective that MMY is incorrect in > his understanding of human consciousness. My POV is a positive step > for me in understanding my life and my experiences in the movement. > For the people here who are able to discuss our various perspectives, > where we differ, and where we agree, I am extremely grateful. Posting > here has been a valuable asset to the evolution of my perspective and > thoughts concerning MMY among other parts of life. Some of you have > shared my intense interest in MMY's teachings to the point of pursuing > it fulltime. You are the people I relate to best here. If MMY was > correct in his understanding of human consciousness, this total > commitment to achieving his goals is the most rational thing for a > person to do. Likewise, if we have decided that it no longer suited > our needs, it is also rational to express our growing understanding > assisted by other teachers, and our own personal thinking. There are > many on this group who discuss ideas in this mutually respectful way. > It is a fantastic intellectual resource. That is why I post here. > **end** I want to comment on this and don't really know how to, except to endorse your willingness to explore life with deep and wholehearted committment. I love that you were so totally into the movement; you and me and so many people who post here. Although my children, now adults, are so much better than me in so many ways, one thing they don't have in their lives is the experience so many of us had when we were young and young adults within the TM movement -- the unparalleled experience of being part of such a cause and such a movement, either as it actually was at the time or as we thought it to be. The posts here that express compassion and understanding, forbearance and intelligence, as well as humor and flexibility are the ones that, in my mind, most fully advance the ideals of the movement to which we all pledged allegiance when we were young. If the TMO has apparently diverged from those ideals, it is not my problem. There are many people who post here, including yourself, whom I admire greatly. Thanks. Marek
