--- In [email protected], "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "BillyG." <wgm4u@> wrote:
> >
> > At least for any length of time, my guess is that after many 
years of
> > this unnatural behavior many of these Siddhas will actually have
> > damaged their knees. It's not that I don't believe that Yogic 
flying
> > is possible, only that in the past (in yogis and saints) it 
probably
> > occurred spontaneously and not after years and years 
of 'unnatural'
> > hopping.
> > 
> > In the other documented cases where levitation was established my
> > impression was that the individuals were highly developed 
spiritually;
> > I don't get that impression from your average siddha.
> > 
> > And to suggest that a little bubbling bliss is the equavalent of
> > operating from the level of all the laws of nature to me is 
totally
> > nuts but is another discussion.
> > 
> > It would be interesting to see if any siddhas have already 
damaged
> > parts of their body.....
> 
> Yes mucho have hurt their knees and spines.  I've been told it's
> especially hard on western bodies.
> 
I've heard this stuff for awhile, and I think it is due to improper 
practice of the sutra. If someone is straining and not just 
naturally going with the specific effects of the sutra, I can see 
how all sorts of physical problems would result, simply because they 
aren't doing the program as taught. 

I would venture that teaching *anything* of a spiritual nature to 
seekers has its risks, because seekers want to get further along, 
and particularly in the West, where we are taught to strive and to 
push to achieve our success, I can see how some people might think 
that such unnatural effort may benefit them spiritually. (A good way 
to get killer headaches too, during meditation.)

However, when practiced correctly and innocently (not holding a gun  
to God's head, so to speak), there is no danger of injury. I 
remember several times when doing the flying sutra I would bang my 
knee hard on concrete, smack into someone, or fly into something. 
There is a phenomenon associated with the flying technique when done 
correctly, whereby I can only conclude that the stuff the body is 
made of appears to be more loosely coupled or more akin to 
consciousness vs. physical form. The result being that I never 
experienced any sort of permanent injury during my practice of my 
flying technique, and I was a consistent high flyer, practicing the 
technique for ~15 years.

No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater on this one- just 
practice the technique as taught, and don't be so desperate for 
results.

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