--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul doesn't want to cut taxes -- he wants to TOTALLY eliminate 
> > income
> > > taxes. And to do that, he would cut government spending by a 
third.
> > > Given that  entitlements and debt service take up a large 
portion 
> > of
> > > the budget, this means most discretionary funding would be cut. 
> > Like
> > > for education, energy policy, expanded health care, science 
> > resarch,
> > > etc. Are you and others who like Paul really behind these 
ideas? 
> > Are
> > > you in favor of such policies?
> > 
> > 
> > Incorrect. If you actually listen to his reasoning you will see 
that 
> > his policy would actually INCREASE money available for education, 
> > energy policy, health care, science research, etc.....by 
FAR !!!   
> > This is his WHOLE POINT ! It is a rational approach.
> > 
> > But you are right, most people in the country probably are not 
smart 
> > enough to understand this reasoning.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> 
> 
> OK, I will read more. I have seen 2-3 of his speeches and read a lot
> of his congressional and campaign websights. They are kind of sparse
> on his range of proposed policies.
> 
> I one speech I heard today, he said that government spending would
> have to be radically reduced. That we could not depend on government
> for many of the things we do now. I perhaps incorrectly inferred 
that
> this was education, health, energy, etc.





No, you weren't incorrect.

I reproduced for off_world where he stands on many of these issues 
and, if anything, your 30% figure for reducing government wasn't 
enough: I produced a quote from him that indicated 60%.

Be clear: this man is beyond being a libertarian: he is an anarcho-
capitalist.

And although he hasn't said it explicitly, if you read between the 
lines, he doesn't believe in global warming.






> Since those -- and the
> military are among the high ticket discretionary items. I assume he
> would severely slash the military.  Though savings on that would be
> realized some time down the road -- with so much in fixed costs and
> commited contracts -- and paymens for the forced retirement of
> 100,000's armed forces.
> 
> What would his propsed budget look like? 
> 
> From this, below, he sounds like a strong fiscal conservative, 
agaisnt
> monetary policy and the military. 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> April 2,  2007 
> 
> The fiscal year 2008 budget, passed in the House of Representatives
> last week, is a monument to irresponsibility and profligacy.  It 
shows
> that Congress remains oblivious to the economic troubles facing the
> nation, and that political expediency trumps all common sense in
> Washington.  To the extent that proponents and supporters of these
> unsustainable budget increases continue to win reelection, it also
> shows that many Americans unfortunately continue to believe 
government
> can provide them with a free lunch.
> 
> To summarize, Congress proposes spending roughly $3 trillion in 
2008.
>  When I first came to Congress in 1976, the federal government spent
> only about $300 billion.  So spending has increased tenfold in 
thirty
> years, and tripled just since 1990.
> 
> About one-third of this $3 trillion is so-called discretionary
> spending; the remaining two-thirds is deemed "mandatory" entitlement
> spending, which means mostly Social Security and Medicare. I'm sure
> many American voters would be shocked to know their elected
> representatives essentially have no say over two-thirds of the 
federal
> budget, but that is indeed the case.  In fact the most disturbing
> problem with the budget is the utter lack of concern for the coming
> entitlement meltdown. 
> 
> For those who thought a Democratic congress would end the war in 
Iraq,
> think again: their new budget proposes supplemental funds totaling
> about $150 billion in 2008 and $50 billion in 2009 for Iraq.  This 
is
> in addition to the ordinary Department of Defense budget of more 
than
> $500 billion, which the Democrats propose increasing each year just
> like the Republicans.
> 
> The substitute Republican budget is not much better: while it does
> call for freezing some discretionary spending next year, it 
increases
> military spending to make up the difference.  The bottom line is 
that
> both the Democratic and Republican budget proposals call for more
> total spending in 2008 than 2007.
> 
> My message to my colleagues is simple: If you claim to support 
smaller
> government, don't introduce budgets that increase spending over the
> previous year.  Can any fiscal conservative in Congress honestly
> believe that overall federal spending cannot be cut 25%?  We could 
cut
> spending by two-thirds and still have a federal government as large 
as
> it was in 1990.
> 
> Congressional budgets essentially are meaningless documents, with no
> force of law beyond the coming fiscal year.  Thus budget projections
> are nothing more than political posturing, designed to justify 
deficit
> spending in the near term by promising fiscal restraint in the 
future.
>  But the time for thrift never seems to arrive: there is always some
> new domestic or foreign emergency that requires more spending than
> projected.
> 
> The only certainty when it comes to federal budgets is that Congress
> will spend every penny budgeted and more during the fiscal year in
> question.  All projections about revenues, tax rates, and spending 
in
> the future are nothing more than empty promises.  Congress will pay 
no
> attention whatsoever to the 2008 budget in coming years.
>


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