--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting NLP story. > > One of the meditative processes I've found very valuable was a > technique which actually projects habitual subtle and super-subtle > thoughts into three dimensional space, to the extent that, sans > external testing cues, you could not tell it from from waking > reality. If you could jump outside of the thought-loops that caused > the "reality" to manifest, you could be free of it and the thought > patterns would "self liberate". However, if you accepted them as > real, you would be stuck there for an indeterminate amount of time.
Sounds like the Bardo. :-) > One of the warnings of undergoing this type of retreat was that if > you could not rest the mind in it's natural state, you could > potentially become trapped in such states for days, weeks or years. > The interesting thing was, if you fell for some juicy thought-loop > and then eventually came out of it, you could always examine your > mind and it would present the source of the pattern. It was often > some subtle belief you were 'running in your mind-RAM' > unconsciously. Once recognition dawned though, you were free. > > On Jun 12, 2007, at 10:19 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > Thanks for posting this Vaj. > > > > One interesting area of Neuro linguistic Programming was something > > they call "sub-modalities". These are all the internal distinctions > > we make to tell one type of thought or memory from another. We code > > thoughts with internal visual cues like image qualities, > > brightness,size, color vividness and our internal dialog with > > qualities like volume, tone and speed. These qualities can be > > manipulated once you isolate them. We did an exercise on my > > practitioner's training where we tried to uncover what internal cues > > we use to tell a real memory from a made-up story. The purpose was to > > build some convincing histories of success for ourselves when we were > > doing something new to build confidence. It was pretty obvious what > > internal qualities we used to internally code true experiences from > > fiction. We attempted to make the made up story as much like the true > > ones as we could. I got to the point where I could feel emotional > > changes from the false memories once I had altered them like the real > > ones. It never got confusing which was real, probably because there > > were other cues I was missing, but it served the purpose of shifting > > emotional states. > > > > One interesting exercise we did with sub modalities was to locate > > negative subconscious internal tapes that we were running without > > knowing it. The usual stuff like "You aren't good at..." or "You > > never (always)..." Often times, when analyzed, it would turn out to > > be in the voice of a loved one who had started the self-doubt process > > and then it ran by itself below conscious attention. We would then > > take the phrase and use a sped-up cartoon voice and run it that way > > until the phrase would lose all of its emotional charge. > > > > I am doubtful about a lot of claims in NLP for miraculous cures > > quickly, but I did find these insights very useful. Now I am pretty > > conscious of the specific qualities of internal dialog I have with > > myself and the kind of pictures I am using that motivate my emotions. > > It has been helpful for me. > > > > We also studied trance induction ala Milton Erickson. That was the > > beginning of my shift in my POV on what I was experiencing in > > meditation and what my subjective experiences meant. > > > > Interesting article! >
