--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> This post is for those that are under the impression that what goes 
on 
> at Gitmo or what went on at Abu Ghraib was torture.
> 
> Go see the following video and then come back here and tell us if you 
> still feel what the Americans did was torture (do NOT see the video 
if 
> you are faint of heart because it very well may be the most 
disturbing 
> video you ever see.  That was certainly the case for me):
> 
> 
http://www.bigducky.com/videos/beheading_videos/armstrong_beheading.htm
>

I can't look at this as I'm in a public library but the title tells me 
all I need to know. But surely beheading isn't torture it's execution? 
the idea of torture is to get information out of people, tricky to 
confess to anything when your head is any distance from your body.

The main question is, how do you know what the CIA are doing? Why do 
you think they've been flying people half-way round the world to 
countries that freely admit they practise torture? for the air-miles?

Setting dogs on people and giving them electric shocks IS torture, and 
it's illegal under international law and any sane moral code. Besides, 
it doesn't even work if the people are guilty let alone innocent as 
most are/were at gitmo & abu graib. I was going to end by saying the US 
doesn't get off because the people don't actually die but plenty have 
been beaten to death at the hands of the "coalition of the willing" 
Shame on us.


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