--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jun 30, 2007, at 9:47 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > "> To clarify: My view is that when you tell deliberate
> > > untruths, or (more often) simply engage in intellectual
> > > dishonesty, the "nefarious ends" in question are the
> > > preservation and/or promotion of your self-image."
> >
> > Form Wikipedia:
> >
> > Intellectual dishonesty:
> >
> > "The terms intellectually dishonest and intellectual dishonesty 
are
> > often used as rhetorical devices in a debate; the label invariably
> > frames an opponent in a negative light. It is an obfuscatory way 
to
> > say "you're lying" or "you're stupid", and has a cooling effect on
> > conversations similar to accusations of ignorance."
> >
> > Me: Yeah, that about sums it up.
> 
> And also why I use the word "obfuscation" in regards to
> Judy's style (or lack thereof). She's the great obfuscator.

Translation: Vaj's definition of "obfuscation"--
exposing dishonesty (especially his).


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