--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _Alarmist global warming claims melt under scientific > > > > > scrutiny :: > > > > > > > CHICAGO > > > > > > > > SUN-TIMES :: Other Views_ > > > > > > > > (http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/450392,CST-EDT- > > > > > > > REF30b.article) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already posted a link to this article. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy's response? It's totally meaningless because > > > ExxonMobile > > > > > funds > > > > > > > the institute where the author works. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heartland Institute has received $791,500 from ExxonMobil > since > > > > > 1998. > > > > > > > > > > The Heartland Institute created a website in the Spring of > 2007, > > > > > www.globalwarmingheartland.org, which asserts there is no > > > scientific > > > > > consensus on global warming and features a list of experts > and a > > > > list > > > > > of like-minded think tanks, many of whom have received > funding > > > from > > > > > ExxonMobil and other polluters. [...] > > > > > > > > > > Walter F. Buchholtz, an ExxonMobil executive, serves as > > > Heartland's > > > > > Government Relations Advisor, according to Heartland's 2005 > IRS > > > Form > > > > > 990, pg. 15. > > > > > http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2005/363/309/2005- > 363309812- > > > > 0295fbb2-9.pdf > > > > > > > > > > The Heartland Institute formerly sponsored and hosted > > > > > www.climatesearch.org, a web page ostensibly dedicated to > > > objective > > > > > research on global warming, but at the same time presenting > > > heavily > > > > > biased research by organizations such as the American > Petroleum > > > > > Institute as an FAQ section. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41 > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO WHAT? > > > > > > > > > > Did you read the article? It was, mostly, a compendium of > > > references > > > > > to published articles in the leading scientific journals that > > > refuted > > > > > the global warming position. > > > > > > > > > > Are all these journals and all the authors of those pieces > ALSO > > > in > > > > > the pocket of ExxonMobile? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cherry picking isolated stories to promote one's biased claims > pales > > > > in comparison to the overwhelming massive collective evidence > > > > indicating the reality of global warming.
> > > > The fact that the author of > > > > the article works for a known paid Big Oil shill makes your case > > > > laughable when you expect to be taken seriously. > > > There IS NO "overwhelming massive collective evidence indicating > the > > > reality of global warming". > > > > > > That's just something Al Gore said or that you read in the media. > > > > > > The fact that you are astonishingly uninformed is your fault, not > mine. > Well, then, it should be easy enough for you to actually SHOW ME > where this alleged "overwhelming massive collective evidence > indicating the reality of global warming" is. > > And please don't reference where someone is SAYING that it is so but > provide the actual evidence, as you claim. > > I'm waiting. The National Academies of Science represent the scientific communities of 11 major nations of the world. Brazil Canada China France Germany India Italy Japan Russia United Kingdom United States of America *See their report* on Climate Change here: http://tinyurl.com/3ykvyg The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change [IPCC] Recognizing the problem of potential global climate change, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) established the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in 1988. It is open to *ALL* members of the UN and WMO. *See their report* on Climate Change here: http://www.ipcc.ch/about/about.htm Maybe you'd like to try to count how many scientists these groups represent. Then maybe you could show 'your' side of the story by presenting a comparable body of scientists that don't come from either right wing conspiracy freaks or people or groups funded by Big Oil and acting as their shills.
