--- In [email protected], "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "BillyG." <wgm4u@> wrote:
> > > In brief, I think the significance of the Guru is he becomes the
> > > portal to God Consciousness on the inner planes. Sometimes 
called the
> > > *Radiant form of the Master*, his image guides the aspirant on 
the
> > > inner planes to God, without the Guru one can very easily get 
lost in
> > > these most suductive inner planes of consciousness...you need a 
guide
> > > up/in there! or so they say.  :-)
> > >
> > I haven't heard this before, but it absolutely jibes with my 
> > experience with Guru Deva. Not that enjoying the seductive planes 
of 
> > inner consciousness isn't fun too!:-)
> 
> 
> I think at some point we will be 'given' a personal guru, whether on
> the inner planes or here on earth to guide us to those higher 
states,
> surely God would not let a sincere devotee go blindly.....we may 
even
> have the same mantra.

Thats an interesting thought. In the post below Maharishi is said to 
adress this in a private meeting. All of this is abviously written 
from what the poster remembered and are not direct quotes. 
Fascinating nevertheless. I have snipped parts of this since I think 
it is a mistake to share private instructions from Maharishi with 
others.

  

 
"On that same course by the end Vera Meyer, wife of Siebelt Meyer, 
who later on overtook the Jyotish Section in the movement, suddenly 
stood in front of us and reported like a small girl, sent by his 
teacher, and with shivering voice (we all did not recognize her 
absence during the course):
 
"Maharishi called me to Seelisberg directly from the course and 
personally on the phone. He said, you as a great engineer-lady from 
Germany should immediately come here, I have to tell you something 
very important. I went on clouds to Seelisberg, but when I reached 
there I got the lesson of my life. Maharishi assembled the whole 
staff, closed all doors and windows and came so near to us as he 
never used to do before. And then he seemed to be a completely 
different personality, like as if being totally normal and initimate 
and not as big and distant as he seems to appear before.
 
He said: "First of all never listen to what people say, what I have 
said. My teachers and me are intimately connected with me on the 
level of our hearts. Whatever you want to know, you can clarify 
directly with me on this level. Second, I am surrounded by CIA and 
Communist-Security people to a very high extend. Do not worry too 
much about it. Don't get irritated and do your work independently ! 
Third, what you see here, all that golden stuff is also not according 
to my liking. But we have to keep the movement in a ridiculous 
outfit, that will make our enemies believe that we are harmless and 
stupid as to eradicate ourselves from within. And yet believe me, 
those people will join us who have the capacity think on the level of 
the heart. Fourth, I know that everyone of you has the intense desire 
for a personal master. But for the moment I am not able to fulfill 
this wish. I have to play my global game, until the time will come, 
when I will be showing my real face to the world. And the time will 
definitely come soon, when I will find space for you one by one. So 
now go ahead and continue your task."



 
This also reminds me to some tape on my TTC in 1974, when someone 
asked Maharishi (it must have been in Fiuggi or so), what kind of 
consciousness avatars have. Maharishi stopped for a moment, and a lot 
of expectation was "hearable" in the room. Then the surprising answer 
came:
"Work consciousness " !

 
 
 

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