--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 6, 2007, at 5:45 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/6/07 10:05:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > vajranatha@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From another list: > > > > > > analyze this > > > _http://rapidshare.http://raphttp://rahttp://ra_ > > > (http://rapidshare.com/files/41054578/jesus.wmv) > > > > > > 1. Klick rigth underneath on FREE > > > 2. Type de code 3. download > > > > > > ---------------- > > > A growing number of Evangelical Christians believe > > > there is a revival underway in America that requires > > > Christian youth to assume leadership roles in > > > advocating the causes of their religious movement. > > > This documentary, directed by Heidi Ewing and > > > Rachel Grady, directors of the critically acclaimed > > > "The Boys of Baraka," follows Levi, Rachael, and > > > Tory to Pastor Becky Fischer's "Kids on Fire" > > > summer camp in Devil's Lake, North Dakota, > > > where kids as young as 6 years-old are taught to > > > become dedicated Christian soldiers in "God's army." > > > > > > Imagine a place where focused, precocious kids pledge > > > allegiance to a holy text and train as ideological warriors > > > - even, yes, martyrs. You're imagining America - > > > specifically, Kids on Fire, an evangelical madrassa > > > devoted to fomenting a religiopolitical Children's > > > Crusade. ''This world, all it feeds you is trash,'' says > > > 12-year-old Levi. ''I want the meat.'' > > > > > > recensies: > > > _http://www.rottentohttp://www.http://www.ro_ > > > (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/jesus_camp/) > > > _http://www.metacrithttp://www.mehttp://www.metac_ > > > (http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/jesuscamp) > > > > > > Cut to the flickering images of children writhing in a spiritual > > trance on a > > > chapel floor > > > while being hectored about the glory of dying for Christ, and one > > knows > > > exactly where the > > > first Christian suicide bombers will come from. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem here is Christianity has no concept of Jihad or > > conversion under > > > the sword. When it was done, crusades and inquisition, it wasn't > > Biblically > > > based. Children writhing in spiritual trance on the floor, could > > this be > > > anything like sutra practice in which I have seen the same thing? > > Sounds like you > > > fear Christians on fire with the Holy Spirit more than Muslims on > > fire with > > > suicide belts.>>> > > > > Er...hundreds of thousands killed, maimed, or displaced by an > > arrogant Christian fundamentalist regime (Bush, Ashcroft, Rice, > > Rove, and others). Are you that anive that you don't realise that > > the fanaticism that fuels the Christian "taliban" is the same > > fanaticicism and arrogance that caused GW Bush to say he follows "a > > Higher Father", and he, by believed he therefore cannot do wrong. > > This is the EXACT philosophy of the Born-Again Christians, and they > > believe they are superior and you are going to Hell. This is what > > Bush believed. You are inferior to him and his buddies. > > American Christians have been getting high tech machines to murder > > people by the hundreds of thousands, and the government was DIRECTLY > > supported by them in large numbers. The Muslim fanatics manage to > > kill with suicide bombs and some lucky chances on 9/11. > > > > There is no difference between the two. The only difference is that > > you think the Iraq war was caused by political forces. It was not. > > It was fueled by fundamentalist fanaticism in the US and even in the > > US military, and the result is a quagmire you cannot get out of. No > > way out. No way to stay much longer either. No choices left for you. > > You are stuck there in a quagmire mess for many, many decades. You > > are naive if you think you can get out. Even if you get out for a > > short time, you will end up having to go back in in much larger > > numbers and with much greater casualties not long after. > > > > Fundamentalist Christian arrogance caused this quagmire, and > > fundamentalist Muslim arrogance is just as bad, only much less big > > guns and fighter jets. All of this Bush administrations ignorant > > mess was CAUSED DIRECTLY by the arrogance of a religious group who > > states that it follows God, therefore cannot do wrong. The other > > side is the satanic one. Both Muslim and Christian fundies are the > > same. You are incredibly naive to think that American > > fundamentalists do not kill for religion. Even some top positions in > > this administration were filled by inexperienced people who > > graduated from that fat preachers 'university'/madras, and they were > > all gung-ho to kill for Jesus. This administration believed they > > were the righteous saints, and now this quagmire you will not get > > out of and it is going to eat away at your national pride, national > > moral, and national budget in increasing clarity. > > > > I am not being a doomsayer, just saying what I and many others > > predicted would happen as a result of this ignorant action. Sure > > something had to be done about Saddam, but this was a massive and > > unprecedented strategic mistake and a blunder of historic > > proportions and the wrong way to go about it. > > > > Fortunately Jesus Camp is a bit dated now, and Ted Haggard who stars > > in it as an arrogant, self-agrandizing, christian fanatic, is outed > > as a drug toking, anus fucking, prostitute using, fake, and many > > other Christians are turning away from the fanatic arrogance that > > fueled the Neocons Talibanesque onslaught on civilization, and are > > turning to a more humble form of their religion. Bush is practically > > the most disgraced president of all time, and the US will have VERY > > a hard time recovering from the mess into which it has dug itself. > > > > Quagmire mess, soldiers returning home psychologically shaken, > > desertions fast on the rise, moral declining. Well done BushSheep. > > What an ubelievable mess. You will see prices rising across the > > board, and your income decreasing as a result of this. > > > > (I'll be alright though, I got Euros ;-) > > > Yeah, but did you notice a parallel to how the Maharishi-jugend at > the MSAE, indoctrinated in Vedic Creation theory and encouraged to > hop are so, so similar? I could see a similar documentary being done > called Forest Academy and it would show the Vedic creationists urging > their children on to their very first Forest Academy! Rather than > writhing on the floor in ecstasy, these young yuppie kids aspire to > foam.>>
Yes, I have always seen the parallels. Did you ever see the original movie "The Time Machine". I seem to remember the far-off future with some hippies hanging around some ruined domes, and them being herded off into an underground cavern. Walking to the dome with all those people (when men's dome entrance was underground) often reminded me of that. But it is just silly to compare them. The MSAE kids do remind me of what you are saying, the difference is they can refer to hundres of studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. The Christians can not. This is the benchmark of a valid argument, and the MSAE kids have that. Plus they do not believe that others are inferior to them and hated by God, as Fundamentalist Christians believe. The number of times Maharishi has said that EVERY human being is WALKING VED is uncountable, and every person is a precious expression of Brahman, he emphasizes always. BIG DIFFERENCE don't you think. Can you not see this?...but you Vaj would only look at the surface to make comparisons, since that is your habit with everything is it not? > > Nice synopsis of the US, too bad you can't apply the same razor of > criticism at your own scorpionland...>> Why do Americans always assume that just because a person criticises the biggest superpower on Earth that they have not the same criticism of their own country. Do I HAVE to prep. everything by saying that "I see just as many issues for Britain, but..." The problem with Britain was arrogant christian self-agrandizing Tony Blair and others. However, Britain will not be in Iraq much longer. Superpower USA will be stuck there. Sad but true. OffWorld
