--- In [email protected], xxxxxxxx> wrote: TM simply provides a more ideal opportunity for the transcending. As a technique it is second to none, in my opinion, and I've studied under numerous teachers. TM sure surpasses in effectiveness the concentration on the tip of the nose taught by most yoga teachers!
You can't seem to cite a single teacher or technique that provides a simple, easily learned technique for effortless transcending. That's my point. Tanmay: Hard to communicate my following points but will attempt to. Yes the technique of TM is awesome, simple and it works, transcending was immediate in the very first meditation, stayed deep all through the years, was the deepest in the last 5 years where just awareness of awareness in meditation and some sort of significant deep bliss at times through out the whole day outside of meditation. This friend of mine, who I used to do program with in Vlodrop, had the same things to say more or less as I just did, and unfortunately, he jumped in front of a train one year ago. My experience is that a technique is something the Guru gives out as a part of the journey for unfolding enlightenment. The significant and major difference that is not in the path with TM and is where I am now is the one to one guidance of a Sat Guru. This is all the difference in the world. I have seen people with experiences yet in a fog because that guidance wasn't there. So what happens when the technique is effective and brings about experiences? hit or miss if the Guru is not right there to guide and one to one. Mostly it is a mss. When samadi comes about, Nirvakalpa samadi, Nirvakalpa sahaj samdi, this is a very important time when the Guru needs to be there one to one. This point is coming from my Guru. Look how Yogananda was confirmed by his Guru to be in enlightenment. My Guru disagrees with a policy of giving out a technique and then leaving people on their own to figure things out. It is required to keep in touch and this is a commitment one makes as a sadaka in this path. The commitment from the Guru's side is to be willing to guide one to one. Commitments from both sides. If it were to get larger, then the very few assigned to help other sadakas would be very carefully evaluated and watched and in training as a Guru. My guru finds it irresponsible to have others guiding people who cant even guide themselves. Again, this lady that went for an irresponsible long swim from New Haven,, this guy from Danbury who killed himself, the one from Vlodrop- all Governors- at some point through the years, I did program with all of them at different places. I know of plenty more casualties- so this is a hefty price for the success stories. I think of the concept of sending the boys off to war to die for our freedom- not acceptable IMO. I think from my Gurus point of view, that after having done a technique on the path for 30 years with long hours, then being in a fog and with confusion, this is also a casualty.
