--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > wrote: <snip> > > So, Barry is not only a TBer, he is a cultist. > > Then again, most of the folks here spent thousands > of dollars and up to 30 years of their lives trying > to learn to "fly."
Actually, I spent $3,000 for the entire TM-Sidhis course (not the $5,000 you claim below). Not sure exactly how much of that $3,000 was for learning the flying sutra, but it obviously was only some fraction of the entire sum. I *certainly* haven't spent anywhere near 30 years of my life practicing the flying sutra or even the entire TM-Sidhis program, nor has anyone else here. Plus which, my motivations for taking the TM-Sidhis course were (a) to further my development of consciousness and (b) to further the development of coherence in mass consciousness. If the practice ever resulted in actual flying, that would be a nice side benefit, but it wasn't why I took the course or why I practice the program. As for results, (a) has been and continues to be fulfilled in spades, worth ridiculously more than what I paid for it. Unfortunately, the jury's still out on (b). Many of them still hope beyond > hope that someday, if they're lucky and if they go > to the right courses and if the woo woo rays purify > the environment enough, they'll actually get to *see* > someone really fly. I guess you could say I "hope" to see someone really fly, but not on the basis you claim, and only in the same sense that I hope for world peace. In fact, I'd much rather see world peace than see someone fly. > And yet people who walked into a free lecture at > the Los Angeles Convention Center in the early 80s > got to see the real thing. Or not. > That may make those of us who stuck around for a > while after the lectures to try to figure out the > guy who could *do* that kinda shit look like cultists. > But it also makes you who took the TM route look kinda > stupid. Not if we don't fit your description above (and below), it doesn't. > Free public lecture, and you see someone fly. $5000 > and up to 30 years of bouncing on your bum, and you > never have. You do the math. :-) > > It's just levitating, guys. Or flying through the > air. You paid big bucks a few years ago because you > not only thought it was possible, you thought you'd > be able to do it. And now, after 30 years with no > payoff, when someone says that he's actually seen it, > you act like you're rational and he's the crazy one. >From here, it looks like the crazy one is the guy who walked out on all the potential personal (and possibly global) development of consciousness from the TM-Sidhis program because it wasn't "interesting" enough, then got fixated on a dude who was able to make him think the dude could levitate, but who never provided him with whatever was necessary to enable him to do the same thing, even though the crazy one paid the dude many thousands of dollars in the hope that he would. The crazy one thus treasures a memory of something he thinks he saw but that never came to fruition for himself, and tells himself (and us) that somehow having this memory makes him "better" than we are, while we, the rational ones, continue to enjoy the development of consciousness resulting from our practice of a program we paid for once many years ago and own for the rest of our lives. > Get real. I just did. But, of course, there are at least as many different realities as there are people, as you're constantly telling us. So when you demand that we "get real," what you're really demanding is that we adopt *your* reality--something about which, if someone else demanded it of you, your shrieks of outrage would be audible all the way to Mars. > Even if it was an illusion, I've seen it and you > haven't. And that's what you're pissed off about. No, Barry, that's your *fantasy*, the reality you construct for yourself. Awfully petty and small- minded compared to the reality of developing one's consciousness (and possibly that of the world)-- even if *that* turns out to have been an illusion as well. (And jeez, talk about getting "caught in a compulsive cycle of living in the past"! How many times now have you gone through this routine here?) BTW, when are you moving to Spain?
