--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 7/13/07 12:51:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> Deuteronomy also describes the  laws which people were to live by. They 
> included criminal and  civil.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I would suggest that while you are correct  in general, the real
basis for 
> our gov't is the 16th century fascination with  universal laws of
nature. These 
> were best exemplified by John Selden, in  De Jure Naturali et
Gentium juxta 
> Disciplinam Ebraerum (Natural Law and Civil Law  of the Hebrews),
where he tried 
> to establish such a universal law  based on (at that time) the only
known 
> universal laws, Noachide Law. Selden's  rendition and expansion of
Noachide Law 
> became one of the basis for  a universalized Freemasonry, which
later found 
> it's way into the thinking of  the founding fathers.
> 
> 
> 
> Hey, I have no problem with that either. Universal truths are
referred  to in 
> our Declaration of Independence. 'We hold these truths to be self
evident  
> that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their
Creator with  
> certain inalienable rights, that are among these the right to life
liberty and  
> the pursuit of happiness- That to secure these rights governments
are secured  
> among men'. The Civil Law of the Hebrews you mention is what I have
been 
> saying  here all day which is found in the Book of Deuteronomy. Of
course you know 
> the  free masons built the temple of Solomon which is built based on
the  
> design of the Tabernacle which was revealed to Moses by God.   


Apparently Moses was a real law-abiding guy. Here's how Moses followed
God's law:

Under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They kill
all the adult males, but take the women and children captive. When
Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily says: "Have you
saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and
kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the
women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep
alive for yourselves." So they went back and did as Moses (and
presumably God) instructed, killing everyone except for the virgins.
In this way they got 32,000 virgins.

Numbers 31:1-54 (summarized)

The abhorrent killing of women who've 'known' men and saving the
virgins for themselves, and killing male children prisoners is
something current sociopathic Christian Right freaks might like to do
to Muslims, but it certainly isn't US law. You're waaaay out in left
field, bwana.








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