--- In [email protected], billy jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I read your link. I agree with you entirely.

The link in the link is worth reading. So, as an information to Judy,
the following might be instructive:

'As an aside, these authors are quite aware that their method is very
close to the madhyamaka approach, but they categorically assert
brahman as the only absolute, and still find fault with nAgArjuna for
not asserting the existence of one absolute.'

http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/creation.html

There was recently a thread in the Yahoo group Advaitin, regarding the
difference between the three major Vedanta philosophies:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/advaitin/messages/36214?threaded=1&m=e&var=1&tidx=1

It led me to the following overview:
http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/74.html

The thread also mentions 'Madhusudana Saraswati'
who was an Advaitin, but also a great Bhakta. We recently had here
with Ron and Swami_G the discussion about Non Brahmins non being
admitted to the Dandi Swami orders. Well, that Non-Brahmins had access
to the 7 other orders finally, was due to the activity of Madhusudana
Sarsawati, who was also a great scholar, and this was also the birth
of the Naga Babas, the warrior sadhus. It was he who brought the issue
that many Sadhus where the victim of islamic faqirs to Akbar, who
suggested that Non-Brahmins should be admitted who could fight and
carry weapons. As a concession to the orthodox it was determined, that
three orders should be excluded from this innovation, among them the
Saraswati order. Madhusudana persuaded the Sadhu congregations to
follow Akhbars advice. 
There was also an argument with Ron that Shivananda,
being a Saraswati, also initiated Non-Brahmins. I now have read that
this tradition has loosened in the south, so, yes Saraswatis in the
south can be Non Brahmins, but they can definitely not be Dandi Swamis.

Regarding bhakti, Madhusudana Saraswati says :

"Duality is Bondage before MOKSHA, and after Realization it is
wisdom ! The imaginary duality of BHAKTI is sweeter than even Non-
duality!"

This may be especially interesting to Vaj who believes that MMY
invented Bhagavati Chetana. Nothing could be further from truth!

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