--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When you behave like an arrogant, idiot asshole there
> are consequences, yes?

Is that a judgement? Is there possibly any projection in that
judgement? (Thats a non-judgemental and non-leading question. We like
you either way.)


> 
> --- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights
> > 
> > In Modern Era, Only Nixon and Truman Scored Worse,
> > Just Barely
> > By Peter Baker
> > Washington Post Staff Writer
> > Wednesday, July 25, 2007; A03
> > 
> > President Bush is a competitive guy. But this is one
> > contest he would rather lose. With 18 months left in
> > office, he is in the running for most unpopular
> > president in the history of modern polling.
> > The latest Washington Post-ABC News survey shows
> > that 65 percent of Americans disapprove of Bush's
> > job performance, matching his all-time low.
> > In polls conducted by The Post or Gallup going back
> > to 1938, only twice has a president exceeded that
> > level of public animosity -- Harry S. Truman, who
> > hit 67 percent during the Korean War, and Richard M.
> > Nixon, who hit 66 percent four days before
> > resigning.
> > The historic depth of Bush's public standing has
> > whipsawed his White House, sapped his clout, drained
> > his advisers, encouraged his enemies and jeopardized
> > his legacy. Around the White House, aides make
> > gallows-humor jokes about how they can alienate
> > their remaining supporters -- at least those aides
> > not heading for the door. Outside the White House,
> > many former aides privately express anger and
> > bitterness at their erstwhile colleagues, Bush and
> > the fate of his presidency.
> > Bush has been so down for so long that some advisers
> > maintain it no longer bothers them much. It can
> > even, they say, be liberating. Seeking the best
> > interpretation for the president's predicament, they
> > argue that Bush can do what he thinks is right
> > without regard to political cost, pointing to
> > decisions to send more U.S. troops to Iraq and to
> > commute the sentence of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby,
> > Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff.
> > But the president's unpopularity has left the White
> > House to play mostly defense for the remainder of
> > his term. With his immigration overhaul proposal
> > dead, Bush's principal legislative hopes are to save
> > his No Child Left Behind education program and to
> > fend off attempts to force him to change course in
> > Iraq. The emerging strategy is to play off a
> > Congress that is also deeply unpopular and to look
> > strong by vetoing spending bills.
> > The president's low public standing has paralleled
> > the disenchantment with the Iraq war, but some
> > analysts said it goes beyond that, reflecting a
> > broader unease with Bush's policies in a variety of
> > areas. "It isn't just the Iraq war," said Shirley
> > Anne Warshaw, a presidential scholar at Gettysburg
> > College. "It's everything."
> > Some analysts believe that even many war supporters
> > deserted him because of his plan to open the door to
> > legal status for illegal immigrants. "You can do an
> > unpopular war or you can do an unpopular immigration
> > policy," said David Frum, a former Bush
> > speechwriter. "Not both."
> > Yet Bush's political troubles seem to go beyond
> > particular policies. Many presidents over the past
> > 70 years have faced greater or more immediate crises
> > without falling as far in the public mind -- Vietnam
> > claimed far more American lives than Iraq, the
> > Iranian hostage crisis made the United States look
> > impotent, race riots and desegregation tore the
> > country apart, the oil embargo forced drivers to
> > wait for hours to fill up, the Soviets seemed to
> > threaten the nation's survival.
> > "It's astonishing," said Pat Caddell, who was
> > President Jimmy Carter's pollster. "It's hard to
> > look at the situation today and say the country is
> > absolutely 15 miles down in the hole. The economy's
> > not that bad -- for some people it is, but not
> > overall. Iraq is terribly handled, but it's not
> > Vietnam; we're not losing 250 people a week. . . .
> > We don't have that immediate crisis, yet the anxiety
> > about the future is palpable. And the feeling about
> > him is he's irrelevant to that. I think they've
> > basically given up on him."
> > That may stem in part from the changing nature of
> > society. When Caddell's boss was president, there
> > were three major broadcast networks. Today cable
> > news, talk radio and the Internet have made
> > information far more available, while providing easy
> > outlets for rage and polarization. Public
> > disapproval of Bush is not only broad but deep; 52
> > percent of Americans "strongly" disapprove of his
> > performance and 28 percent describe themselves as
> > "angry."
> > "A lot of the commentary that comes out of the
> > Internet world is very harsh," said Frank J.
> > Donatelli, White House political director for Ronald
> > Reagan. "That has a tendency to reinforce people's
> > opinions and harden people's opinions."
> > Carter and  Reagan at their worst moments did not
> > face  a public as hostile as the one confronting
> > Bush. Lyndon B. Johnson at the height of Vietnam had
> > the disapproval of 52 percent of the public.
> > Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F.
> > Kennedy and Gerald R. Ford never had  disapproval
> > ratings reach 50 percent.
> > Truman and Nixon remain the most unpopular modern
> > presidents, though barely. Truman's disapproval
> > rating reached 67 percent in January 1952 and
> > matched Bush's 65 percent a month later. Nixon
> > reached 66 percent on Aug. 5, 1974, four days before
> > he resigned amid Watergate. George H.W. Bush came
> > close before losing his bid for reelection in 1992,
> > with 64 percent disapproval.
> > The current president, though, has endured bad
> > numbers longer than Nixon or his father did and
> > longer than anyone other than Truman. His
> > disapproval rating has topped 50 percent for more
> > than two years. And although Truman hit 67 percent
> > and 65 percent once each within a month-long period,
> > Bush has hit his high three times in the past 14
> > months.
> > Bush advisers clutch at Truman as if he were a
> > political life preserver. If Bush has experienced a
> > similar collapse in public support while in office,
> > they hope he will enjoy the same post-presidential
> > reassessment that has made Truman look far better
> > today than in his time. A 2004 poll by Greenberg
> > Quinlan Rosner found that 58 percent of Americans
> > viewed Truman favorably.
> > And the president's team takes solace in the fact
> > that the public holds Congress in low esteem, too.
> > More than half disapproved of Congress generally,
> > and Democrats in particular, in the latest Post-ABC
> > survey, though their ratings were still better than
> > Bush's.
> > The deep antipathy to Bush has fueled grass-roots
> > support for impeachment. Democrats have resolved not
> > to do that, remembering the division when a
> > Republican Congress impeached Bill Clinton in 1998
> > for perjury and obstruction of justice to cover up
> > his affair with Monica S. Lewinsky. His public
> > support, though, never fell as far as Bush's.
> > Clinton's worst disapproval rating, 51 percent, came
> > during his first term, and he soared to his highest
> > approval rating days after the Lewinsky scandal
> > broke.
> > As much as Bush advisers dismiss polls, their
> > predecessors in the White House said public
> > rejection invariably drags down the whole
> > institution. "It colors everything you can do,"
> > Donatelli said. "Psychologically, it wears on you."
> > Caddell describes a White House down in the polls in
> > one word: "Awful." "People start going through the
> > motions," he added. "The energy is gone."
> > Assistant polling director Jennifer Agiesta
> > contributed to this report.
> > 
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