Vaj,
I'm wondering what criteria they used? Please see if you can find out or at
least get a trackable reference. There is conflict at times among the Tibetans
about the relationship between siddhis and jnana. Their term for siddhi
,abhijna, reflects this. I'll ask YKR when he gets here tomorrow about it. He
has talked a bit about the usual Tummo tests and youve seen the short version
is on his website. But that is a test only of one siddhi.
Im thinking in terms of Kalu Rimpoches statement about himself. Since the
abhidharma texts state that at the first bhumi the bodhisattva can project
multiple transformation bodies at will throughout the world, his conclusion was
that he wasnt even at the first bhumi because he couldnt do that yet. This is
from a monk who spent years meditating in a box. This is a sign to me of the
catholic over-literalism of the Tibetans when they interpret the Sutras and
Abhidharma texts.
Thus Im wondering if the DLs office was using the same kind of criteria
with this claimant to enlightenment.
Also, I dont know if you know YKR well enough (I saw your name on his web
email list) but I can pass any type of message or greeting you want to him this
weekend. And, by the way, my differences with you have to do with mmys
teaching and techniques. As far as YKR, I observe proper Sangha samaya. You can
do this offline if you so prefer. He'll be at my house Friday so get me soon if
you are interested. You can get me at emptybillatyahoodotcom.
Nough said.
hep me jezuz
Im just an
empty headed
hill billy
Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Jul 25, 2007, at 10:17 AM, new.morning wrote:
Can you absolutely know that it's true?
I hate to bring up what seems obvious to me, but there are objective ways to
test states of enlightenment which have been used successfully for thousands of
years. These are simple tests. If you claim to be enlightened thru an approach
that used samadhi--nitya-samadhi (permanent samadhi, CC) as MMY called it, it
is easy to test. Rather recently there was a rather famous western Tibetan
Buddhist who claimed a high stage of enlightenment and it was interesting the
type of verification they used. The person had to be capable of performing
certain siddhis at will. When he did not meet any of the criteria, HHDL's
office issued a statement essentially saying this person was not who he claimed
to be.
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