--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 26, 2007, at 11:28 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> 
> > When I encounter such a thought, I am astonished at the amount of
> > information it contains, and all of the information I am able to
> > unravel from it once I express it in a linear fashion. Many of my
> > posts here are the results of such thoughts, appearing first as a
> > concentrated singularity, but then sometimes unraveling into 
several
> > paragraphs or more. I haven't been able to see them as a precise
> > shape yet, just before unraveling, because the process is one of
> > intuitively expending the discrete energy of the thought through
> > expression until it is exhausted, like pouring out a glass of 
water
> > along a straight line until the glass is empty. Unlike a surface
> > thought, a singularity, these more subtle thoughts already 
contain
> > all of their associated structures and constructions inherent in
> > their seed form.
> 
> 
> This known as the pasyanti level of (mental) speech. It is no 
longer  
> transcendent, but still has not differentiated into individual 
words  
> or sentences (if you've seen a long Sanskrit compound word you'll  
> know what I mean) and is a visual form of speech where the sound 
is  
> still wed with it's object. In vitarka (gross thought) 
the "thought"  
> corresponds to a form, but in subtle thought (vichara) it tends 
more  
> towards pashyanti-vac or the speech-which-sees. At the pashyanti  
> level, mental-speech has color, and if you're sensitive enough 
you  
> can sense this coloring. The only connection to an object is pure  
> intuitive. If we go subtler still we encounter the matrikas, the  
> "unknown mothers" which are the actual speech-matrix which super- 
> subtle speech emerges from.
>
Thanks- This really advances my understanding of where to look next. 
I'm especially interested in the shape and design of the matrikas.:-)

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