On Jul 26, 2007, at 11:28 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:

When I encounter such a thought, I am astonished at the amount of
information it contains, and all of the information I am able to
unravel from it once I express it in a linear fashion. Many of my
posts here are the results of such thoughts, appearing first as a
concentrated singularity, but then sometimes unraveling into several
paragraphs or more. I haven't been able to see them as a precise
shape yet, just before unraveling, because the process is one of
intuitively expending the discrete energy of the thought through
expression until it is exhausted, like pouring out a glass of water
along a straight line until the glass is empty. Unlike a surface
thought, a singularity, these more subtle thoughts already contain
all of their associated structures and constructions inherent in
their seed form.


This known as the pasyanti level of (mental) speech. It is no longer transcendent, but still has not differentiated into individual words or sentences (if you've seen a long Sanskrit compound word you'll know what I mean) and is a visual form of speech where the sound is still wed with it's object. In vitarka (gross thought) the "thought" corresponds to a form, but in subtle thought (vichara) it tends more towards pashyanti-vac or the speech-which-sees. At the pashyanti level, mental-speech has color, and if you're sensitive enough you can sense this coloring. The only connection to an object is pure intuitive. If we go subtler still we encounter the matrikas, the "unknown mothers" which are the actual speech-matrix which super- subtle speech emerges from.

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