--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Nope didn't miss a thing. No political compromises yet but 60 
> > > pieces of  
> > > legislation passed. Killings, executions and bombings are down. 
> > > Sunnis are  
> > > turning on Al Qaeda and working with Coalition forces for a 
> > > change. The  Democrats 
> > > have a lot invested in the failure of the surge. If it works 
> > > they look very bad.
> > 
> > It is such a cynical view from both sides to use the death of
> > men, women and children as a political pawn to score points.
> > really sickening and cold-hearted. Whether the surge "works" or 
> > not, I just want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as
> > a country to recognize that it has solved nothing.:-)
> 
> *Nobody* is "invested in failure" in Iraq. Of all the
> right's calumnies, that is perhaps the most unspeakably
> vile.
> 
> It's the old "stab in the back" strategy, dragged out
> and dressed up in an effort to excuse the failures
> that have already occurred.

Uh, Judy...using your *own* standards, aren't
you insinuating above that either Jim or MDixon
used the phrase "stab in the back?" 

You put it in quotes, after all. AND, you did 
so just after using quotes *fairly* "properly" 
(that is, accprding to the rules in Judy Stein's 
Big Book Of How To Write Gud) to *misquote* 
MDixon, who really said "invested in *the* 
failure," not "invested in failure." If you 
were doing the quote properly, you should have 
said "invested in ... failure," indicating with
the elipses that you had left out one or more 
words.

*By your own standards*, what you attributed to 
MDixon was technically a misquote of what he 
said. *By your own standards*, what you attributed 
to someone -- either Jim or MDixon -- was a made-
up quote of your own, something that neither of 
them said or probably ever imagined.

If it had been *me* you were having this dis-
cussion with, and I had done what you just did,
you would have been screaming to high heaven right 
now accusing me of maliciously claiming that you'd 
said something you didn't. 

You would have put this down to my long-estab-
lished disregard for truth and honesty, and to 
my obvious malevolent intent towards you and my
desire to portray you negatively here on FFL. 
And then you would have whined for a couple of 
more paragraphs, doing a smashing rendition of 
the Poor Me Blues.

But it's *OK* when you do it. Right?

Rules of punctuation usage and rules of "argu-
mentation ethics" are only for *other* people.
They don't *apply* to you. Right?

And yes, for the others here who are rolling
their eyes and thinking of Sal's song (nice work
on that, Sal...more creativity and originality
of thought in one post than Judy has displayed 
in 13 years), YES this is a silly nitpick. It's 
*insane* for me to claim that Judy meant to 
attribute the phrase "stab in the back" to 
either Jim or MDixon, just because she put it
in quotes. 

So why isn't it insane when she claims the same
thing about me and Vaj?



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