--One of the limitations on the fulfillment of desires is energy: obviously, energy is required in varying degrees in diverse forms. Money may be seen as concretized energy. Enlightened people have anywhere from little to lots of energy, just like ordinary people; and thus their capacity to fulfill desires is likewise, ordinary, not extraordinary. I've heard MMY's claim(s) that he can help people fulfill their desires, only if the persons donate a large sum of money to him. Sounds fishy, doesn't it; or perhaps snake oil. A prayer cloth might prove to be more effective.
- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great post Curtis. Peg Leg Sam -- a classic. (No relation to Toothpick > Sad Sam Jones I suppose -- (now thats an obscure reference)). > > Sort of reminds me of what I envision MMY or others might say when > asked to fly. "I could, but I don't really like flying." > > Which brings me to Rory and Jim. Guys, I appreciate your responses. > And I have understood them I think, and appreciate the views you > expressed. But you didn't directly answer my question. Not that you > are obligated to. > > Jim, you sort of implied an answer -- that you weres peeved at Bush > and Iraq -- and this expressed disatisfaction might be an agent for > change. Which implies, to me, your ability to fulfill desires doesn't > extend to big things like Iraq. So its a limited qualified type of > desire fulfillment. Same with wholeness swallowing and healing > particles -- though thats more Rory's story. Your wholeness appears > not Whole or powerful enough to swallow and heal the traumatized > particle of Iraq. Or some other constraint I am not aware of. > > > Rory you were a bit more oblique in your answers, skirting the > question. A first for you. :) Loving what is is fine -- though see my > counter post that you inspired -- Loving What Isn't. Your response has > more of a Peg Leg Sam quality perhaps. Perhaps you could heal Iraq if > you desired, or your Wholenes swallowed that traumatized particle, but > you choose not to. Its all just Perfect as it is. Nothing needs healing. > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > MMY's out for his obvious failure in the fulfillment of his stated > > desires is that "Nature" guided it or that the people's > > "deservability" wasn't high enough. > > > > It reminds me of a story Peg Leg Sam the harmonica playing hobo told. > > He was playing to draw crowds for a medicine show where the guy was > > selling the legendary "snake oil". He told the people that it would > > cure snake bites and it was 500 times thinner than water so it would > > cure all ailments. He used to hold up a live rattler for attention > > but this time when he was putting it back in the box the snake bit > > him. As he was screaming for a doctor the crowd asked "why don't you > > just use your magical snake oil?" The crowd caught on that he wanted > > nothing to do with his own medicine and kept screaming for a real > > doctor. The crowd ran them both out of town! > > > > People selling "fulfillment of all desires" are exploiting a beautiful > > human ability to dream and have hope. Once you put in the stipulation > > that "nature" can override your desires or that people might not > > "deserve" the good you wish on them, you end up with a theory without > > falsifiability. Same rigged system with fulfillment of prayers, if it > > doesn't work it was God's will. Think anybody on a plane falling out > > of the sky ever tried praying their way out of it? How did that work > > out for them? > > > > Step right up, step right up... > > > > > > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Whether the surge "works" or not, I just > > > > want this damned war to be over soon, and for us as a country to > > > > recognize that it has solved nothing.:-) > > > > > > This is not a gotcha moment. I am trying to understand what you (and > > > Rory -- its one body/mind/mouth) really mean when you describe your > > > abilities -- and how far they reach. > > > > > > If you are able to "resolve" unwhole particles, nurturing , culturing > > > or inducing wholeness in them, and hopefully "healing" traumatized and > > > negativity imprisoned particles, Why don't you? Why don't you have > > > wholeness, and/or your wholeness, swallow these errant particles -- > > > making them whole? If you have these skills, why is the middles east > > > not flourishing in peace? > > > > > > Same with your abilities to easily and swiftly fulfill all of your > > > desires. Are you desires limited to a small domain of your localized > > > relative life? Don't you desire lasting peace in the ME -- and > > > throughout the world? Don't you wish for peace and prosperity in > > > Darfur? Don't you desire to a ready and affordable solution to Global > > > Warming? Don't you wish a light would turn on inside GWB? Don't you > > > desire a cure for cancer? > > > > > > If you do desire these things, then it appears that your abilities to > > > quickly and easily fulfill all desires is quite limited. > > > > > >
