--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> "As Bart Simpson would say..."Didn't do it!..Can't prove it"!  :-)"
> 
> Great reference choice! (both equally innocent!) The guy's dead, the
> kids are safe, we're just talk'n.  I was a big fan of his work way
> back in the day.  I think his theories on race were right out of
> Mississippi or Buchenwald now, but enough with my hater-aid 
> perspective.
> 
> Here is a blast from the past that you will get I'll bet...Geoffrey
> Hodson's Kingdom of the Gods book.  That little gem with the 
> paintings of the devas he claimed to see really blew my mind a 
> million years ago. The Yes! bookstore in D.C., remember? It makes 
> me want to make a sprout-avocado sandwich and wash it down with a 
> mango lassi while reading some little Theosophical Society pulp 
> fiction while feeling scandalously "off the program"!  I used to 
> soak up the Theosophical and Rosicrucian books and then hit Charley 
> Lutz (then an MIU trustee) with a million questions.  No regrets, 
> good times, completely out of my mind! 

I think we all got out of our minds, but in different
ways. Me, I was never into the flashy stuff, or the
full-of-devas and -angels and -flowery stuff like the
stuff that was in the Theosophical Society books. Sim-
ilarly, I was never into the books about Hindu gods
and goddesses and the cosmic hanky-panky and warfare
going down between them. It just didn't float my 
boat...no interest in it at all.

This doesn't mean that I wasn't out of my mind in other
cult ways, just not in that one. Predilection, and all
that.

Now, in retrospect, I realize that my predilection has
*always* had a lot to do with the "special" thing that
I've been rapping about lately, and my aversion to it.
My idea of a good story about Hindu gods and goddesses
was Roger Zelazny's "Lord Of Light," with all of the
gods as normal, everyday people who had given themselves
(technologically) the powers of the Hindu gods, but were
still normal, everyday people with normal, everyday 
petty egos and petty problems. Into their midst comes
Sam (short for Mahasamatman), the Buddha figure, who is
a total charlatan, and who knows it. And yet one of his
followers, a former assassin who was sent to kill him,
becomes enlightened *anyway*, through one-pointed belief
in the charlatan Sam. Go figure.

*Much* better story IMO, again because there is no 
pedestalization involved. I've never understood the 
desire to put one's spiritual teachers and spiritual
forebears up on a pedestal and tell/make up stories 
about how great they were, and how "special" they were.
Because, as I've said, the higher the pedestal their
followers put them on, the further *away* from their
followers the pedestalized teachers are, and the harder
it is for the followers to imagine that they could ever
achieve the things that the teachers-on-a-pedestal
achieved. It seems completely counterproductive to me.

I'm more comfortable with dudes like the Buddha, who
made the point over and over and over that he *wasn't*
special, and that neither were his followers. They
were all equal -- cut from the exact same cloth -- no
differences between them at all except that one of
them had realized what had always already been present
for all of them, and the others hadn't...yet.

In one of my earlier raps on this subject, I asked if
anyone here could *explain* to me why they enjoy this
process of putting the teacher up on a pedestal and
considering him or her "more than human," "special,"
an avatar. You all *know* that it's going to happen
with Maharishi, and soon.

I'm still waiting. If anyone feels like giving it a
shot, I'd really appreciate it, because I still don't
understand the phenomenon, and the desire to do this.
I've *never* understood it.



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