--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: <snip>
> Certainly, you can proceed to test Tom's hyptheses,  if you care 
to. I
> would be eager and all eyes if you set up an experiment to test the
> hypothesis. We will see if the war in Iraq stops. We will see if Tom
> has uncovered the new physics. But first, perhaps the original
> question posed of you, and still unanswered, could be tested: 
whether
> you could  stop the war in Iraq if you desired, if all of your 
desires
> are easily fulfilled. 

Of course it would, if we truly desired it; I believe I have 
mentioned here that I have time and again seen instantaneous 
manifestations of our desires on the global -- actually, universal -- 
scale. In fact, it's become pretty clear that all of us are operating 
from that level all the time, only usually it is in what we might  
call the state of "deep sleep" (but which we might also call the 
causal realm), so we remain unconscious that all this drama is a 
fulfillment of our own writing, direction and production :-)

And/or your wholeness swallowing particles
> effect exercise to heal iraq.

Everything affects everything else, IME :-) 

 
> As far as BK's technique, I have used it for several years, studied
> two of her books, and I like her method and approach. As we have
> discussed, I found it useful to quiet the monkey mind of
> judgements.Though apparently, according to you and Tom, I have been
> misusing the BK technique. A premise I see BK laughing deeply about,
> but I take your word for my errors. Thus I have started to use a
> offshoot method, thats works better for my interests.

Would that be the Wok? :-) Truly, that was the most brilliant joke I 
have seen here in a long time -- pretending to be against tamas and 
inertia, while actually espousing it and loving it far better than I! 
I bow to the Master! :-)

> And, as I have said before, IMO, I find that you have taken what she
> says, extended it to fit your world view, proclaiming it to be her
> approach. C'est la vie. But I may be wrong. In any event, either way
> is not an earth shaking consequence.

Not just the earth, true -- IME the consequences shake the entire 
universe :-)

> > Perhaps this IS the 
> > new
> > > physics. Stop the presses -- The REAL source of cause and 
effect has
> > > been found. 
> > 
> > No, no, you were right, Richard -- your Wok is the way to 
go! "Don't 
> > love what IS, what is is the rotting corpse of God" -- priceless! 
A 
> > perfect recipe for continued denial and suffering! Talk about 
loving 
> > the status quo! :-)
> 
> I love your continued recasting of my most positive insights in 
terms
> of suffering, denial -- with a wonderful snap of one-upmanship and
> smugness. It is what makes you so endearing.  

Yes, you have reminded me that it actually IS a lot of fun to laugh 
at myself! (If indeed you're not laughing with me on this one.) I 
have to thank you for that too -- Again, I bow to the Master :-)

>The persistence of your
> story, your seeing denial and suffering everywhere. As you have 
said,
> its all projection -- you can (not should) do the math.

Oh, trust me -- You are providing me endless fun and delight and self-
discovery! :-)

> And I appreciate your being a sounding board, for my, at first,
> humorous antitode to the extremes of a BK view I read here. But as I
> let the idea of the Wok unfold, it has provided some quite useful
> insights for me. My view is envigorated. So thank you for that.

You're very welcome; happy to be of service! And you have most 
definitely invigorated mine; many thanks for that :-)

Love Us Always :-)



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