Bulb going off comment below:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> And that we don't own the thoughts. Therefore, why be offended if
> someone doesn't agree with, or dislikes those thoughts. Jeez, I don't
> even like all "my" thoughts.
>
> And it comes sharper into view when the realization comes that we not
> only don't own the thoughts, we don't even create them.
> Thus, I place the stealth teaching of checking at a high level.
> ("Notice how effortless thoughts come" ==> if they came
> effortlessly,without conscious intent, volition or skill, then I had
> nothing to do with the process. [This is a differnt but related
> insightto what Judy raised.]
>
> But it appears to me others "don't own thoughts" in the same way I
> experience that happening. This different use of the same symbol
> "don't own thoughts" appears to be mapped to a different internal
> sturucture and experience.
>
> For some, they propose, in these words or others, that they don't own
> their thoughts (the same theme can also be traced back to expressions
> such as "there is no me found", "I am that", etc.) Yet when such
> expressors react like you just kicked their puppy, when you simply
> question the thoughts that effortlessly arose in them, it becomes
> clear we are using the same symbol to represent quite different things.
>
> I love the SBS dandi / fire story. A clever and mischievous, smirking
> little saint/boy/adept/he. Approaching those who claim no internal
> fire (anger etc) and who coincidently have vows not to have external
> fires (for cooking and all), SBS asks innocently, "Gotta match?" The
> saint /man goes angerly beserk, ego rage, self-importance, pompousness
> puncture, compassion seen to be running on empty. SBS "OK, next".
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New, now I get what you were talking about in your earlier post re
'stealth techniques'. Thanks. Nicely put and nailhead hitting.
Boink. (Extremely effortless on this end and I presume on yours as well.)
