--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A few of the details in Barry's account didn't quite > sound right to me, so I decided to check on the earlier > versions Barry has related on FFL and alt.m.t. > > Compare and contrast; here's Barry's latest FFL version: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Is when I got stuck being "door guy" at Maharishi's > > door the night before the second Merv taping. Charlie > > arrived, I went inside and told one of the guys inside > > that he was there, watched him walk up to Maharishi > > and tell him that Charlie was there, and then come > > back to me and say, "Maharishi said to have him wait." > > > > Charlie waited, fuming. He stood there for a while, > > among all the dozen or so other people waiting outside > > the door, and then he started to pace. Finally, after > > about half an hour, he announced in a large voice, > > "It's been over an hour! I wouldn't wait an hour to > > see Jesus Christ. I'm leaving." And he did. > > > > *That* is Charlie Lutes. > > > > He wanted what he had at the very beginning of the > > TM movement, to be "special." He was kept out of the > > room because some important network people were in > > there and Maharishi was afraid he'd embarrass him. > > > > And, rather than wait outside with all the other > > peons, Charlie stalked off in a snit, and then made > > up a grand paranoid tale about "Jerry's minions" > > keeping him out of the room. > > > > *Maharishi* kept him out of the room, and kept him > > waiting in the hallway with all the other peons. > > > > And Charlie was too "special" to wait with all the > > others. Half an hour among the Great Unwashed was > > as far as his "devotion" went. > > > > Yeah, Charlie was "special" all right. In the same > > place that *his* minions were -- and seemingly are > > still -- "special." In their minds. > > And here's an earlier version from FFL, a year ago: > > ======== > > > LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like "Maharishi, an > > hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for > > Jesus Christ!" > > Yup, almost word for word. I was the "door guy" at > the hotel room door that night. I told the folks > inside that Charlie was there, and watched them > tell Maharishi. Charlie waited for an hour or so, > and then stormed off, shouting those words. Later, > because I was the door guy, I was the one who > Maharishi told Charlie was to blame for keeping > him out: "They never told me." They told him. > > ======== > > In the current account, it was Charlie *making up* > a "grand paranoid tale" about "Jerry's minions" > keeping him out of the room. > > But last year, it was MMY himself who told Charlie > that. > > Note also that a year ago, Charlie hung around for > an hour or so, not just 30 minutes. > > Now from alt.m.t: > > ======== > > There *were* a great number of roaring assholes in the SIMS org > at that time, many of them carried away with their own self > importance and the mistaken belief that it was up to them to > "protect the purity of the teaching." And many of them felt that > Charlie was a challenge to that "purity," because of his tendency > to not attribute the things he taught to their proper source. > > ======== > > Here again, Barry was willing to acknowledge > that Charlie's "paranoia" actually had a basis. > > ======== > > I was once or twice the target of some of Charlie's pettiness. Do > you remember the story I related here recently of being stuck on > "door duty" the night Merv and Clint were there and Maharishi > kept Charlie waiting in the hall for several hours? Well, after that > particular incident, because I was the asshole at the door, Charlie > decided that *I* was the one who had "kept him away from MMY." > The fact that I often attended his Friday night meetings and had > been on very friendly terms with him up to that point didn't seem > to factor into his thinking -- I was at the door, I was to blame. > So he launched a campaign to get me fired from my plush :-) > $500-a-month job at the Regional Office, calling Maharishi in > Switzerland several times to accomplish this. (Somehow I survived.) > > ======== > > Oops. In this version, Barry seems to have > "forgotten" that it was MMY who told Charlie > Barry was the one to have kept him out of > the room. We're back to Charlie's "paranoia" > again. > > But here we do see Barry's motivation for > sneaking a tape recorder into one of Charlie's > lectures, in revenge for Charlie having tried > to get him fired. > > Or, did Charlie try to get Barry fired *because* > Barry had surreptitiously taped his lecture to > make him look bad, and because MMY had told him > Barry and Jerry's other "minions" were responsible > for his not being able to see MMY? > > Only Barry knows what the time sequence was here. > But one way or another, it appears that Charlie > had plenty of reason to dislike and distrust > Barry. > > ======== > > I was in a position several times to see how Maharishi treated > Charlie. He often kept him waiting in hallways for *hours*, > knowing full well that he was there, knowing he was impatient > and would sooner or later throw a tantrum and stalk off, and > then, just when Charlie was about to storm off in a snit, > Maharishi would call him into the room and then say, "Oh, they > (meaning Jerry and/or whoever was on 'door duty' that night) > never told me you were there." > > ======== > > And now we're back to the alternate story again, > that MMY regularly blamed Jerry and "his minions" > for keeping Charlie out of the room. > > ======== > > As for the situation at hand, I'll let you decide. I was the poor > schmuck stuck with "door duty" one night in L.A. when the people > waiting in the hall were Merv Griffin, Clint Eastwood, Charlie, and > about a dozen Just Meditators. I had dutifully announced everyone > as they arrived to Maharishi, so he knew they were there. Merv and > Clint got in first. Their TV show was the next day; it was an > etiquette no-brainer. :-) Then a couple of the Just Meditators got > let in. One of them was a young woman I had announced several times, > because I'd talked with her a little about why she was there. Then, > after a few hours, Maharishi called Charlie in. > > Anyway, I guess my point is, "How do you think I *should* have > acted?" > > I, as a mid-level flunky so far down on the Power Chain that I was > stuck outside the door while all the action was going down in the > room, guess I could have done more to get the Important people in. > Merv and Clint only waited a few minutes, but I guess I could have > announced Charlie twice. Or maybe three times, since he was so > Important. > > ========= > > This one's really interesting. It appears to > be the same *occasion*, the night before the Merv > taping. But in this version, Charlie waits for hours > and finally *is* let in. > > And Barry acknowledges this time that he *did* have > a hand in keeping Charlie out, by choosing to announce > him only once, when Charlie might have gotten in if > MMY had been reminded that he was still waiting. > > Bottom line: Barry's oft-told tales have a tendency > to, shall we say, "evolve," depending on whose ox he's > attempting to gore at the time. > > Of course, we never know what convenient variations > from reality may have affected the tales he tells > only once...
I think she raises some serious concerns......
