--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 28, 2007, at 2:27 PM, BillyG. wrote: > > > I think she raises some serious concerns...... > > Naw, just a typical Judy game. > > It's just what one would naturally expect for an old story, told > casually from memory, many years later, at different times. Remember > this is casual speech, not research science or a history text: it's > off the cuff. Judy tries her darndest to try to divert attention > from this simple human fact; casual speech does not adhere to the > same conventions as a published history texts. > > What does raise serious concerns is that someone would actually > spend SO MUCH time stalking the poster of an object of hatred.
Not to mention doing it for the express purpose of vilifying one of her enemies, cutting things out of various tellings of the stories, presenting them out of order and out of context, and *then*, in the same post, vilifying me for tape recording Charlie Lutes and *not* editing any of the tapes to "make him look bad." The mind boggles. What did she spend half an hour searching Google Groups for, if *not* to make someone look bad? The sheer hypocrisy of it boggles my mind. But my mind has been boggled by Swami J for some time now. The extent of her insanity is no longer even amusing; it just causes sadness. It's like being around a really hard case bag lady. You'd love to feel sorry for her, but she just *smells* so bad, man. In this case, the "smell" is her mindset, what it says about her, and what it says about meditation. > Notice in the older quotes, Turq uses qualifying statements that > indicate the general nature of response: > > "ALMOST word for word" > > "Charlie waited and hour OR SO" > > etc. > > It's very clearly casual, off the cuff speech: precisely what one > would expect for recalling events long since passed and Turq is very > responsible in his deliberately generalized delivery. This indicates > to a discerning and honest reader his actual intent to talk in > general terms, not specifics. Thanks for getting how I write, Vaj. And thanks, too, for weathering this place -- and Swami J -- for as long as you have. I'm thinking about bailing. It might be an interesting thing to do when moving to a new country. It's really gotten to be such a *bringdown* to read these posts (even skipping the posts of now a half- dozen people) and realize where they're *at* after three or four decades on a spiritual path. It's enough to make one want to give up on the whole thing. I fully understand why geezerfreak doesn't post, and why Curtis and Marek post so seldom, and why others have bailed. You read a couple of days of the still- holding-a-torch-for-Maharishi posters' thoughts and you just want to CRY, man. There's so much beauty and joy in this world, and these people get off on petty arguments and spiritual dick size contests. And they feel so "knowledgeable" and superior, while being so incredibly uninformed about the larger spiritual world around them. It just makes you sad. And Swami J herself. Where does one start? She postures as the defender of all things TM here, and she's never been in the same room with Maharishi. Just *imagine* how many opportunities she had over the years to see him, for cheap. Just *imagine* the resistance to having her idealized dreams of him shattered that *kept* her from seeing him all these decades. The stalking me -- that's understandable...she's insane. But the *not* stalking a spiritual teacher she professes to admire, at least to the point of having gone out of her way to see him *once* before he died -- that's just not as understandable to me. It just doesn't seem to fit with the image she tries so hard to project. There is some abject *fear* of the infinite there to have spent this many years without having tried to actually meet the man she imagines the embodiment of infinity. I'm just sick of it. It was such a pleasure to be able to just *rap* here for a few days, without her stalk- ing me. But bam! she's back, and bam! the stalking begins again. Fuck her and the horse she rode in on. I'm just trying my best not to allow her to do what she has been trying *her* best to do since my first posts to alt.meditation.transcendental -- drive me off the forum. She's done it to so many others, which is why I spoke up about her act when I'd first sussed it out. Rick has stood up to her and her minions and not allowed them to overwhelm this forum with posts as she has done to so many others, and thus drive off any dissenting voices. But I may allow her to drive me off of this forum after all. She can finally "win." But in a way I win, because I don't have to be exposed to a professional bringdown any more. Tonight I sat out on the bank of the river and watched the full moon rise. And man! my heart was as full as that moon. Life was just vibrating with aliveness and infinity. And then I log on here and read a few posts and it's a very different vibration. Call me an elitist, but tonight I'm finding my pointing finger aimed at the moon and a different finger aimed at Swami J and her followers. Isn't the Swami J thing good, by the way? Just today I realized that the reason she doesn't like Swami G is that she's so much like *her*. Authoritarian, dogmatic, insulting to anyone who doesn't kowtow to her, and not terribly attractive. I mean, put an orange robe on Judy and unleash her on a few spiritual groups with her com- pulsive posting, and she's HOME FREE for a retirement package. Judging from the number of people who think Swami G is the bee's knees, just *think* how many people would line up to be abused by Swami J. I'm just really tired of being one of them.
