What you report about EtherBun is true of any forum I have joined or lurked. And calling a moderator "YOU MORON" would get your ID permanently deleted in all of them.
I'd like to add that soon after Rick made me a moderator, he posted a message to the group where he both he made reference to his easygoing approach and said maybe the new moderator would have a more proactive attitude towards unacceptable behavior. Since then, though, I have been as easygoing as Rick, with the one recent exception. --- "new.morning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bronte: > > > I belong to another chat room. It's about caring > for rabbits. It's > a nice place, and this is the policy on flames -- > enforced and taken > seriously: > > > > FLAME POLICY > > > > EtherBun is an unmoderated listserve. However, > because we want > EtherBun to be a happy place, the list owner and the > EtherBun Advisory > Committee insist that there will be NO FLAMING, > EVER. A flame is > defined as a personally insulting or derogatory > post. Strong opinions, > healthy disagreement and civil discussion are > welcome on EtherBun, but > flaming will not be tolerated. If you write a post > voicing a strong > opinion about a controversial issue, please DO NOT > name other EtherBun > subscribers personally. To do so invites hostility > and fans the flames > of war, which will not be tolerated on EtherBun. > Offenders will be > warned by the Advisory Committee, and repeat > offenses will result in > the offender's being deleted from the list. > > If you are ever the victim of a private flame > because of something > that occurred on EtherBun, please forward a copy of > the flame post to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the discretion of the EtherBun Advisory > Committee, the > perpetrator will be warned and/or deleted from the > list of subscribers. > > > FFL guidelines say essntially the same thing. More > concisely or > compactly perhaps. The issue is the ethos and > aura of enforcement. > Different forums resolve this in different ways. > > Rick generally goes by consensus. Or does what he > feels is right, and > beleives others will "get it" when implemented. For > example, few > wanted to change to 35 posts / week limit, from > 5/day, Ricks said, > "lets try it for 30 days anyway. It seems to be a > good idea". And now > most everyone applauds the policy. > > It never would have happened if Rick did not take > the initiative, > applied common sense and perhaps intuition, and > moved "ahead" of the > consensus. As a leader, not a follower. > > My take is that while consensus is good, it rarely > is achieved without > experience by the participants. Though I applaud > Ricks management > style of seeking consensus, I suggest the experience > of the 35 post > change as a paradigm for management here. Try out > various "common > sense" solutions. See if they work for a month. > After experience with > the policy, then ask for a consensus. We would never > have 35 posts a > week if Rick had waited for a pre-consensus on that. > > Some things to try. > > 1) It is not subjective when someone blatently > flames. Its obvious. > Adhere to the guidelines and ban any such flaming > poster for a week. > Two weeks second offense. Six months after 4-5 > offenses. I suggest > that Yoda-Rick try this for a month. THEN see if > there is a consensus > then for the policy. > > 2) Same bans for gratuatious profanity or sexist, > racist, ageist, > creedist slurs. Thats clear 99% of the time (For > example, sadly not > everyone got the "Jane, You Ignorant Slut" satire.) > > 3) Same bans for trolling -- defined as "incessant > posting of > inflamatory material with the intent to push button > and incite > flames". This is clear 90% of the time, and the > first offense should > receive a warning. Then 1, 2,3 week bans. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC