--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > There's a lady in FF who's really into crop circles. She's Marlene
> Stanley,
> > Alex Stanley's sister-in-law, wife of Raja Tom of the Kingdom of
> Denver. She
> > gave a presentation recently and has some interesting stories to
> tell. I'll
> > try to tell them later as time allows.
> 
> I hope you do Rick because I really don't "get" the crop circles
> thing.  The pics Nab posted look like laser cutouts on wood panels
> when I blow them up in Photoshop.  Judy's maze crop cutouts are what
> cutout crops look like.  Many of the pics I have seen look like a
> simple Photoshop layers imposition of an image onto a picture of a
> field.  I guess I am missing the link of someone on the ground we 
can
> trust telling us what we are looking at.
> 
> Of course the jump from "We don't know what caused this" to "We do
> know what caused this and it is aliens" is gunna be an even harder
> jump for me, but I would like to start with the support basis for 
the
> pictures themselves.  How are they distinguishing them for
> Photoshopped pics?

For one thing; they are not manmade :-) 

If you blow the pictures up enough you will see that the straws are 
not broken, only bent. (If you looked at the original files that is - 
they look the way they do in your PS because these are tiny files) I 
can do quite alot in PS myself, but bending million of straws, no 
thanks. Anyway; if you visit the sites you can walk in them, and 
apparently have very interesting meditations, a feature even CS3 
doesn't have ;-)

Very complicated designs are made within minutes, which have been 
confimed again again by a) people who have seen it being done, b) 
pilots who have flewn over the area when they were not here, and then 
finding and photographing them 20 minutes later on return flights.

There are many good sites with reports from the ground on this 
phenomen, google it, read and enjoy ! 

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