Thanks for the response.  I haven't seen any high res photos, only Web
stuff.  Since you are also a Photoshop user I think you must
understand my skepticism.  Where did you get original file to look at?

I think the jump to non-man made is still a big one.  It is sort of
like UFOs for me.  If the cause is unidentified, then we are saying we
don't know the cause, not that we do know and it is aliens.  

If you have any cools sites to share that would be great.  So far I
haven't googled anything that seems as interested as I am in making
this distinction. 

I am always up for and example of the limits of man's knowledge.  I am
not always up for people offering imaginative explanations for things
we don't understand by offering beings for whom we have no evidence.
It is not the "we don't know how it was made" part that I have any
problem with. I have a feeling that people really into these things
are not really interested in getting to the bottom of what is really
going on here.  The party of belief in aliens is just too much fun!



--- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > > There's a lady in FF who's really into crop circles. She's Marlene
> > Stanley,
> > > Alex Stanley's sister-in-law, wife of Raja Tom of the Kingdom of
> > Denver. She
> > > gave a presentation recently and has some interesting stories to
> > tell. I'll
> > > try to tell them later as time allows.
> > 
> > I hope you do Rick because I really don't "get" the crop circles
> > thing.  The pics Nab posted look like laser cutouts on wood panels
> > when I blow them up in Photoshop.  Judy's maze crop cutouts are what
> > cutout crops look like.  Many of the pics I have seen look like a
> > simple Photoshop layers imposition of an image onto a picture of a
> > field.  I guess I am missing the link of someone on the ground we 
> can
> > trust telling us what we are looking at.
> > 
> > Of course the jump from "We don't know what caused this" to "We do
> > know what caused this and it is aliens" is gunna be an even harder
> > jump for me, but I would like to start with the support basis for 
> the
> > pictures themselves.  How are they distinguishing them for
> > Photoshopped pics?
> 
> For one thing; they are not manmade :-) 
> 
> If you blow the pictures up enough you will see that the straws are 
> not broken, only bent. (If you looked at the original files that is - 
> they look the way they do in your PS because these are tiny files) I 
> can do quite alot in PS myself, but bending million of straws, no 
> thanks. Anyway; if you visit the sites you can walk in them, and 
> apparently have very interesting meditations, a feature even CS3 
> doesn't have ;-)
> 
> Very complicated designs are made within minutes, which have been 
> confimed again again by a) people who have seen it being done, b) 
> pilots who have flewn over the area when they were not here, and then 
> finding and photographing them 20 minutes later on return flights.
> 
> There are many good sites with reports from the ground on this 
> phenomen, google it, read and enjoy !
>


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