Thanks Geoff.

So how does this relate to error trapping in CFMX? Is there a
difference between standard and enterprise?


In terms of robustness, security ... Is Tomcat/WebSphere/weblogics and
better solution that jrun over IIS/Apache?

Just did a quick bit of reading and it looks like tomcat is a plugin
for Apache and IIS.

Hmmm, maybe IIS is not such an issue.


My concerns (probably due to a misunderstanding) are the relationship
/ coupling of CFMX, java application server and the web server. From
an (CF) application point of view, what can a developer do do handle
jrun / webserver (internal error 500)? ie, what happens when the rug
is pulled out from under your feet?

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:17:39 +1000, Geoff Bowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew Mercer wrote:
> > My understanding of jRun is extremely poor - so can someone please
> > clarify for me:
> > - if jRun crashes, can I trap the error in CF?
> 
> It depends.  See below.
> 
> > - does jRun come in different types?
> >    = jRun for IIS
> >    = jRun dev server (port 8500)
> >    = jRun web server (J2EE)
> 
> No.  There is just one JRUN. See below.
> 
> jRun dev server (port 8500) and jRun web server (J2EE) are the same thing.
> 
> > - is is crazy to run CF enterprise over IIS vs over jRun J2EE?
> >       to my thinking it is putting rock solid construction on dodgy foundations
> 
> Your confusing terms and what goes where -- this is making it tough to
> understand what your options really are.
> 
> JRUN is a J2EE application server.  ColdFusion is NOT an application
> server.  CFMX is a Sun Certified Java application that runs on top of a
> J2EE application server.
> 
> Consequently CFMX will run on just about any J2EE server including
> TomCat, WebSphere, Weblogics and so on.  But CFMX always requires a J2EE
> server somewhere to run.  JRUN is Macromedia's J2EE server and so they
> bundle it with CFMX.
> 
> CFMX Standard runs on an embedded version of JRUN. By embedded read
> neutered, not full strength -- same engine but not as many options.  In
> "Standard", CFMX is bound to its embedded JRUN server.
> 
> CFMX Enterprise is shipped with the full JRUN product. CFMX with this
> license can be deployed independently of JRUN on alternative J2EE
> application servers.
> 
> JRUN can connect to a myriad of different web servers but mostly your
> choices boil down to Apache or IIS.
> 
> The so called JRUN web server is an embedded Java based web server which
> is convenient for development.  There is probably no reason why you
> couldn't run this in production but its not commercially supported by
> Macromedia, not as well patched as Apache and IIS, and certainly not as
> functional as the main stream web servers.
> 
> What you use and when is really a factor of what your application does
> and your overall requirements with regard to security, uptime and budget.
> 
> -- geoff
> http://www.daemon.com.au/
> 
> 
> 
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