Thanks again for the info and explanation!

Peter C. Gorman, 10-09-2010 14:32:
> Alex,
>
> This makes a lot of sense. If there are new images that are edited
> versions of source images I'd probably create a relationship between the
> new and source objects, using a predicate like "isVersionOf" or
> "isDerivedFrom". Or if it's the *aggregation* of the 3 images that's
> new, and the source images themselves are used as is, I'd create the new
> object with "hasMember" relations to the 3 source images. That's how we
> handle e.g. postcards: the front and back views are each a separate
> object, and there's a logical "postcard" object above them with
> bilateral hasMember/isMemberOf relationships connecting them. One of our
> CModels for that logical object is, in fact, CModelCompositeObject.
>
> If you have a logical object that has 3 images that are edited versions
> of source images, the relationships might look something like this (the
> bidirectional links are, of course, optional):
>
> TopObject -> hasMember -> NewImage1
> TopObject -> hasMember -> NewImage2
> TopObject -> hasMember -> NewImage3
>
> NewImage1 -> isDerivedFrom -> Image1
> NewImage2 -> isDerivedFrom -> Image2
> NewImage3 -> isDerivedFrom -> Image3
>
> If you were creating an application that lets someone identify a
> repository image and grab a copy to edit and save, that application
> would manage the link form the new to the old object. And the source
> object wouldn't have to be updated; the new image canjust point back to it.
>
> At 11:03 AM +0100 9/10/10, Alex Rodriguez Lopez wrote:
>> Hi Peter and Patrick,
>>
>> Thank you both for this input, I've been actualy truggling with this
>> collections / aggregations issue too for some time, but as we haven't
>> started to develop our repo system yet (just at the design phase) I
>> didn't know how Fedora could manage this (if it could).
>>
>> The methodology and conclusions both of you reached will be valuable for
>> our case!
>>
>> But I was wondering, here we have one more use case, regarding
>> relationships between objects too, let me explain:
>>
>> Apart from this 2 types of collections both of you suggested:
>>
>> - Permanent/curated collection (system created or externaly aggregated)
>>
>> - Ad-hoc/custom collection (user created)
>>
>> The user should have the option of creating *new* objects, based on
>> other objects (being on a collection or not), so they are creating a
>> *composite* object, not a collection, which would efectively have to be
>> considered a new object, but still maintain the relation to the used
>> objects in it. So the user can, for example, grab 3 images from the
>> local repo or other sources, edit them and add some other stuff
>> (effectively creating a new object) and save them for their (and
>> everybody's) use, but retaining this info about the relations (so it is
>> known that other images are integrated inside). I would call this a
>> *composite object*, as opposed to that 2 types of *collections of
>> objects*.
>>
>> Does this make sense? Has any one in the list had to apply this in a
>> Fedora repo?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>

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