Dear Scott,

> I gave that presentation before RELS-INT was a part of the Fedora core;  but 
> that was some time ago, and it has been in Fedora releases, and in use, for a 
> while. 
I had that feeling, when we noticed, that the date of this presentation is 
2009, but it is still amongst the best and most detailed materials out there. 

If you could send me a sample compound object (a multi page document would be 
lovely) that would be a real help for us. 
Unfortunately I couldn't find any good RELS-INT examples, even the demo objects 
came with Fedora are modeling too simple cases...

> We ended up creating a METS datastream to store sequence data and 
> relationship data outside RELS-EXT.  This is not ideal, as we end up 
> duplicating some data in both RELS-EXT and the METS datastream, but the 
> benefits so far 
> have outweighed the costs of maintaining relations in two places.

When we saw your presentation example, we thought the same, that why to 
duplicate, but on the other-hand it seemed easier to store (and I think easier 
to display as well) the sequential information in METS. Not to mention, that I 
don't really have a clear vision, how to store page orders in RELS... :)

We are really appreciate your efforts... :)

Thanks,
Jozsef
OSA Archivum, Budapest
IT Department

>>> Scott Prater <pra...@wisc.edu> 8/31/2011 03:11 >>>
Hello, Jozsef --

> Unfortunately the closest thing what I was able to find is the above 
> mentioned presentation, there are no RELS-INT examples
> existing, and reading the Mailing-List debate about RELS-INT 
> (http://www.mail-archive.com/fedora-commons-developers@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00418.html)
> confused me a little bit about the future of the RELS-INT. Is there a Fedora 
> Commons Best Practice existing for storing compund objects?

I gave that presentation before RELS-INT was a part of the Fedora core;  but 
that was some time ago, and it has been in Fedora releases, and in use, for a 
while.  We started using RELS-INT ourselves about a year ago, mostly to relate 
technical metadata datastreams to their bitstream datastreams.  There's really 
not much of a secret to RELS-INT:  you use it to specify relations among 
datastreams within an object in the same way RELS-EXT is used to provide 
relations among objects.  I can send you some sample objects, if you're 
interested.

> And another interesting part is, how should I store the order of the pages? 
> Should I include a datastream containing the Structural section of a METS 
> document?
> Or should I create some meaningful relationships to use RELS-INT/RELS-EXT?

We ended up creating a METS datastream to store sequence data and relationship 
data outside RELS-EXT.  This is not ideal, as we end up duplicating some data 
in both RELS-EXT and the METS datastream, but the benefits so far have 
outweighed the costs of maintaining relations in two places.

-- 
Scott Prater
Library, Instructional, and Research Applications (LIRA)
Division of Information Technology (DoIT)
University of Wisconsin - Madison
pra...@wisc.edu 

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