On 11/30/2009 11:49 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 11:26 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote:
>> On 11/28/2009 10:23 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>> Debayan Banerjee wrote:
>>>> Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs
>>>> have roughly equal user bases, chosing emacs over vim for the
>>>> distribution shows Fedora packagers' personal preference too. I guess
>>>> both vim and emacs should be available.
>>>
>>> Both vim and Emacs are obsolescent and hard to use. Kate FTW!
>>>
>>>         Kevin Kofler
>>>
>>
>> On the contrary, they're both quite easy to use. They're just hard to learn. 
>> This is intentional. If you're smart enough to use a real man's editor then 
>> you're smart enough to send patches to other real men who are writing real 
>> men's software. We don't actually want just /anyone/ writing code, do we? 
>> (well, Java people do, but its impossible to do anything useful in Java 
>> anyway. That's why you need a gigantic resource-intensive IDE to do 
>> everything for you).
>>
>> --CJD
>>
> 
> I guess all the female hackers are just SOL?
> 
> 

I consider "real men" to be a gender-neutral complement. I know women who 
gladly receive it and exchange it amongst themselves.

Not to say that that doesn't necessitate clarification.

--CJD

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