On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:00:45 -0600
Frank Cox wrote:

> I hadn't, in fact.  But installing them didn't solve the problem.  (I logged
> out and logged back in to make sure, no joy...)

I've found a lot of stuff where logging in and out isn't good enough.
I wouldn't be too sure they aren't installed until you reboot and
they still aren't there.

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