Nations separated by a common language...

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:45 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On the melding of speech in the uk. Not sure i can completely agree with
> that. Being a native scot, i grew up near glasgow and had relatives in
> edinburgh. They used words i never used and at times did not understand. And
> those two cities are only 45 min apart. And then there are the english. No
> one understands them, lol. Also having lived in nashville for 9 years,
> whenever i go home i notice the regional differences even more. Ofcourse you
> were talking about a tv show where most of the words will be properly spoken
> and not mangled by region, lol. I mean even amy pond does not get all that
> much slang in there, lol
>
> Graham
>
> Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Raymond E. Feist" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, Nov 9, 2011 13:24
> Subject: New "get to know you" question
> To: "feistfans-l" <[email protected]>
>
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> On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Earl Borah wrote:
>
>>> A language is a living, evolving thing, and could change rapidly before
>>> it became "fixed" by print.
>>>
>>> Best, R.E.F.
>>
>> How much has modern media (radio, television, movies) helped "fix"
>> language? When an entire country - or even much of the world - is
>> watching the same television shows and movies, does the pronunciation
>> and dialect from Hollywood help minimize the local variances we'd
>> otherwise have?
>>
>
>> Specifically -- while I recognize there's still a difference in
>> southern speech and New York speech compared to what I hear every day
>> here in Oregon, are those differences less than they'd otherwise be
>> due to the prevalence of audio media? How does that effect compare to
>> the effect of print media?
>>
>> What happens when a show like Doctor Who becomes popular in the US --
>> does it affect our speech patterns much? How big a deal is American
>> television/movie to the rest of the English-speaking world -- are we
>> affecting their speech patterns?
>>
>> Not that I expect anyone to have a definitive answer, they're just all
>> questions I find interesting.
>>
>
>
> Very good point.  First radio introduced Americans to "mediated speech"
> which was more or less eastern, upscale (even among some broadcasters sort
> of a "Mid-Atlantic" half US/half British, witness someone like Alistair
> Cook) which is a bit like monied Americans like FDR spoke.  That evolved
> into what is now modern "Mediated American Speech," which pretty much is a
> bit of a broad midwestern twang toned down a great deal and softened,
> witness Walter Cronkite or Tom Brokaw.  If you go to cities like Atlanta,
> you don't hear the broad southern accent you here in more rural parts of
> Georgia.  If you go to San Francisco or L.A. among non-ethnic neighborhoods,
> you hear a westernized melding of accents from all over the nation.
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> Yes, media is making us all slowly sound alike.
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> Importing shows from Britain has little effect.  Ironically, a much smaller
> nation, there's almost nothing like the melding of speech we have in the US.
>  Perhaps it's due to there being more of a connection between accent and
> class and neighborhood in the UK?  I don't know.
>
> Best, R.E.F.
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