What you are saying RE Tolkien makes perfect
sense!.. The majority of people I talk too who don’t like to read, say it’s
because it takes too much time. There are now so many outlets where you can 
escape
these days, that a book is just too much effort. 

I'm one of those readers who picks up a book.. and won’t put
it down til I'm finished, and the reason for this is more than likely due to
movies and tv, where you have a beginning, middle and end in the space of 20 
minutes
to 2 hours, then its happy days and checking facebook. However with Tolkien 
it’s just not possible to finish one part of LOR
in one sitting, jeez after one chapter your mind is so exhausted with detail,
that you need to take a break!. 

 

Though I must admit now after reading Magician, DAS, Silverthorne,
and the Harry Potter series collectively, 
god knows how many times, I wish for an extended un-edited version, filled
with every boring detail to be released!..  
BTW I had mixed up my JK's quotes it was Snape who was the Anti-hero.. not 
Harry!.. damn red wines over lunch!.. 
P.S and James for me.. there are only 3 books or parts to LOR, just the same as 
there is only 1 Magician.   



'As a people we should never let what makes us different get in the way of what 
makes us the same'

From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Possible answer
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:37:01 -0800
To: [email protected]




On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Jamila Rose wrote:And that is exactly what JK was 
going for.. the anti hero.. I think that’s why so many kids love the books.. 
because lets face it.. Harry is average.. for a wizard at least. Another reason 
the books reach a wider audience, is it doesn’t require you to create a whole 
other world with your imagination.. because its built within our reality. A kid 
can quite easily sit in school and daydream that the Hogwarts express is on its 
way to Hogwarts or that that owl is delivery post. I think that’s why you find 
that the books from the Narnia series, that are the most popular are the ones 
where the pevensie children are focused on. Personally I know both Ray and JK 
are classified as fantasy writers, but the worlds they work in are completely 
different so I can’t compare them. I will however say this.. I know Ray you are 
a big fan of Tolkien.. however I much prefer to read your books over and over 
again.. then to tackle LOR again.. love the Hobbit.. but I much prefer how you 
space out your facts and history over multiples and multiples of books.. and 
not jam pack everything into 3... Don’t get me wrong Tolkien was a master.. but 
I've never quite forgiven him for his criticisms of his good friend C S Lewis!
'
Actually, you're almost right.  Harry is a prodigy, and turns out to be THE 
wizard.  What he is at the start of the first book is the nerdy kid who's 
bullied.  Rowling grabs your sympathy by having him be the kid confined to 
living under the stairs and a bratty cousin who's almost a cliche of bratty 
cousins.  The genius of that bit was the uncle and aunt were motivated, 
ultimately, by a mix of concern for Harry's (and their own) welfare, rather 
than any dislike of him.  He was an unwelcome burden, and where Rowling made it 
work was that they didn't hate him; they just didn't love him.  So, he was a 
boy alone and in the first book he finds his world and the people in it who 
(figuratively and literally) become his family.  It's not just friends, but 
eventually it's mentors, father figures, the ultimate grandpa, and finally a 
wife.
So the linkage is that every kid feels like an outcast, at least some of the 
time.  Even the most social kids often are that way for fear of feeling like an 
outcast.  Or if they're the "in kids" most of them look at the outcasts and 
secretly feel sorry for them, even if they never show it.  It's a magnificent 
trope for reeling kids in, and reminding adults of what it used to be like.  
And it played all over the world, because being a kid, well, it kind of sucks 
most of the time.
Tolkien on the other hand is from another world. At least another time.  His 
teachers were all 19th Century Oxford Dons and the like, and he had the classic 
British upper class Public School and University Education.  He revered the 
classics, and took a great deal of his inspiration from Goth-Germanic lore and 
especially the Elder Eddas. He wrote what he did for two reasons, to approach 
myth as a linguist and predicate his cultures on language (which is why you've 
got galloping great batches of information on the various elven dialects).  He 
also wanted to create a "Myth for Britain" which was a bit of a brag, as they 
already had a perfectly good one in King Arthur.    Tolkien grew up in a 
literary culture that had no mass media, except for the city newspaper,and 
weekly/monthly magazines.  He probably saw some silent films as a boy in his 
early teens. There were no radio; the BBC was formed when he was 30.  He was 
pushing 60 when TV arrived.  So he learned his craft at a time when readers 
wanted lush detail and lots of background.  Read him the way you would read Sir 
Walter Scott.
Me, I'm a modern writer and know that my readers want dialogue, narrative, and 
description in that order, and if I don't get on with the bloody damn story in 
a couple of pages putting down the book and checking their Facebook pages or 
Twitter.
Best,R.E.F.

----www.crydee.com
Never attribute to malice what can satisfactorily be explained away by 
stupidity.





                                          

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