Pretty sure Ray isnt thinking about it :) 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Shelley Stroup 
  To: feistfans-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:45 PM
  Subject: Re: Possible answer


  I don't think I've ever seen someone stumble so bad onto the list!!

  Here's the thing Sean, you have "stumbled" onto the Feist Mailing list, which 
is an email list not a forum, and there are over 600 members from all over the 
world.  Most of us have read ALL of Ray's body of work (some don't have access 
to all of Ray's books due to publishing issues) so if any of us have comments, 
we tell Ray ourselves here, AND we have.  Since you JUST got here you wouldn't 
KNOW what came before you, I give you that, BUT it's YOU who doesn't seem to 
realize that there is a better way to ask your questions or give your criticism 
(AT LEAST FINISH READING THE BOOK FIRST!).  And by Ray's silance, we know what 
he's thinking about your criticisms! 

  Finally, we DON'T have too do anything you seen to be demanding, who are you 
anyway!

  Shelley


  From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:20 AM
  Subject: Re: Possible answer



  Someone has addressed some of the points, I take it back, but please if you 
going to return, return with mature sensible debate?

  Either way, I still maintain, there is a lot I believe, which could be 
improved upon, I am not about to shift from that position, but then I do not 
blindly follow any one individual, even the writers - I most admire, I believe 
should be open to criticism to where their work can be improved upon of course.

  I think in actuality, with any writer or person, you do them a disservice, 
when you place them on such a high insurmountable position, and deem their work 
beyond criticism!

  In a message dated 28/01/2012 09:13:01 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] 
writes:
    Hi,
         I approached your site, making some challenging questions, all I see 
hear on the whole is people jealously defending Feists work...

    Which is a usually a sign of a poor argument!!!

    No one, and do not get me wrong, has challenged my pointsrationally - 
you've just stuck Feist on this proverbial pedestal, and worshipped him from 
afar, and to me - as none of you seem to have addressed my points, it seems 
absolutely unjustifiable - particularly in light of many of your responses!

    As I said I wanted to enjoy Feists works, I did not wish to find these 
flaws. Can I suggest if many of you are so aggrieved with what I saying, you 
address my points sensibly? 

    Or take up these flaws with Feitst himself, but as I said, the first signs 
that someone unfortunately is not sure of their argument, and the ground they 
stand on, is to resort to personal put-downs!

    I came to the sight to pose challenging questions, I am not about to 
apologise for not being sycophantic and worshiping the wholly pedestal that is 
Feists work, without due criticism where I see genuine flaws. 

    I am going to go through the rest of these emails, briefly, and see if 
anyone actually makes any rational sensible points instead ofblindly 
defendingRaymond's Feists work, without rhyme or reason, then I'd be pleased to 
know.

    But, again I have to say vehemently and viciously defending Feists work, 
not being open to criticism, it hardly endears me - at all... if being a fan 
means, you have to be closed minded, and aggressively defend your stance. 

    Personally, in my own work, I am always open to criticism and improvement, 
but perhaps I regard my own work as stronger? 

    Nevertheless, I expected and hoped for reasoned balanced argument, I see 
unfortunately little of that! To the contrary, it re-affirmed my convictions, 
that people are readers are perhaps not discerning enough as to the flaws, and 
do not care. 

    As I said, I approached this forum with a balanced and open mind, it is a 
shame that this was not similarly reciprocated. 

    How do I submit to the forum itself please, instead of these emails? Also, 
if people have got nothing worthwhile to say, and as I said if they are just 
going to resort to petty personal put-downs, because perhaps you cannot accept 
the fact Feist is not infallable, then please do not bother!

    Reasoned sensible argument, I am prepared to listen to?



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