I thought the bugs came from the GOR books...

Joking! sorry could help myself. ;-)


On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Anestis Kozakis <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 28 March 2013 23:18, Raymond Feist <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've commented on this before, but in brief, what came through the game
>> was the concept of Great Path/Lesser Path magic, which was a mechanical way
>> to deal with why we had to concepts of magic, I should add, not that we
>> were using EPT Magic system.  The only thing that ever made it's way into
>> the game were the EPT monsters.
>>
>> So the concept of a riftwar was how we explained that.   The one other
>> concept that held on to was the metal poor thing, because I thought it made
>> for a cool distinction technologically.    Other than that, nada from EPT.
>>
>> I dealt with this silly nonsense 20 years ago.  I've heard "Feist stole
>> his ideas from Barker,"  "He stole Barker's dream," etc.  Look, Phil Barker
>> got published by DAW, two EPT novels, I believe.  They did not do very
>> well.  Whatever tiny elements I inherited through the game, took nothing
>> away from his opportunity for an audience to find his work.  Apparently,
>> not many people were that interested in his fiction.  He had a very loyal,
>> very supportive game community that loved his stuff and they stuck with him
>> quite a long while, but EPT never challenged D&D either.
>>
>> Joel Rosenberg, God rest him, knew the situation intimately, living in
>> Minneapolis, where Phil lived, and knowing him through the SF/F community.
>>  His take was simply that Barker felt a sense of injury.  What he
>> apparently didn't know or didn't care to know was that before Magician was
>> published, Steve Abrams explained the genesis of the Petal Throne to me,
>> lent me the manual, and I went though a VERY early draft of Magician and
>> took out everything that was remotely EPT and that's when I started melding
>> my Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Aztec/Zulu culture--I believe EPT was based on
>> Indian/Dravidian culture, not Asian.  I kept the bugs because I liked them,
>> but I went for a hive-mind thranx, not whatever it was EPT had, and the one
>> thing that probably set this whole thing off was I didn't change the name
>> Tsurani, which was just me doing a funny spelling of the Serani tribe of
>> Africa; I went for the Ts because of Senator Paul Tsongis just because I
>> thought it looked cool.
>>
>> Anyway, Phil is dead, and Joel is dead, and anyone who has any sense of
>> what influence is all about in the world of writing knows that what came
>> from EPT through the game into my work is trivial.  30 novels over 30 years
>> did not result from any labor but my own.
>>
>> Best, R.E.F.
>>
>
> Hi Ray,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Sorry if this brought up bad memories.  I actually hadn't heard/read the
> story before.  Something that's probably slipped past me.   I'll pass it on
> to my friend, but I'm not sure if he'll come around.  Like you said, people
> can get fanatical.
>
> As Kosh said, "Truth is three-edged sword".
>
> Thanks again for the explanation and insight.
>
> Anestis.
>  --
> Anestis Kozakis | [email protected]
>

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