On 2/16/07, skaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 11:39 +0100, Rhythmic Fistman wrote:
> > On 2/16/07, Erick Tryzelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You think? The mailing list is felix's doco and main source of outlandish
> > claims! It associates the word felix with the super sexy search terms
> >  massively parallel
> >  microthreading
> >  10000 socket connections
> >  game scripting
> >  SDL/opengl
> >  etc
>
> So write an app to dump the lot into a google group or whatever .. :)

That does all those things? Ok. I've got a game that covers the
list, with the qualifiers "slightly parallel" and 2 socket connections.

> > That would be a great thing to do if there were a way for people outside
> > of this tiny circly to actually know about it!
>
> Well .. that was a cool story, perhaps we should ask John Cleese
> to do the voice overs ..


(eh? did it remind you of his business series? I've never seen that)

It's a true story - if ONLY interscript were the main barrier
to being a flx developer. Anyone who survives the completely
unnecessary shit-gauntlet we make them run for the honour of
helping us is obviously made of tougher stuff!


Lets remove some artificial barriers.

There should be:

 - a ready to go cut'n'pasteable svn checkout command immediately
   visible on the first page of the web page.
 (svn co https://felix.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/felix/felix/trunk felix)
  Hell, stick it in your .sigs and go and cause some [new] trouble on
  mailing lists that work. Felix: HOFs, lightweight threads, c10k
contender: svn co ...

 - a user faq (how to write hello world) and a developer faq (how to add
   and run hello world unit test) visibly linked off the main page and
in the tarball.

 - a searchable mail-archive

 - an accessible mailing list (the sourceforge one isn't). I've been using this
   gmail address to post to usenet and it has never once given me even
a fraction
   of the pain in the hole that sourceforge has.

 - a way to commit to the repository. unlink commiting from the
mailing list. why
   should the difficulties in committing [rare] be heaped onto the difficulties
   of asking a question [common]? it effectively rules out both. if this were
   as easy as the google groups posting, that would be great. (is this what
   google code is?). if people can actually get felix, ask a question on the
   mailing list and form an opionon on what'd they'd like to change, let them
   submit the odd patch/svn diff via the mailing list that we apply manually,
  like happens on the SDL mailing list. if they get serious then we can fiddle
  with accounts/permissions.


There shouldn't be:

 - outdated tarballs. if it's a problem keeping them up to date via
   a script or somesuch, then better not to have them at all. they waste
   the one-time "initial effort" of newbies. svn's common enough.
   if there must be tarballs they shouldn't be more visible than
   svn source.

 - two web pages. felix.sf.net and the wiki, both mined with "dummy"
   felix tarballs. the wiki looks better and google seems to like it
   more. why not retire it in favour of the wiki?

 - sourceforge. it's shit.

RF

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