skaller wrote:
> Except I can't gain access to my gmail account: google sucks
> pretty badly with many of their services.
>   

What's wrong? I've never had a connection problem.

> But the primary resources of interest are really:
>
> (a) the Felix website
>
> (b) the code repository (svn/tarball stuff)
>
> The website surely needs a lot of work. 'nuf said there :)
>   

It sure does. Migrating the mailing list isn't as important as getting 
the website touched up. Of course, having the mailing list more 
accessible can't hurt.

> Now, in my opinion, the structure of the current code
> base is a serious impediment to cooperation.
>
> We have a sophisticated a highly integrated build system,
> including interscript based modules. It's all cool ..
> if you're me on a good day, or Erick on a weekend.
>
> But if you're a lurker wishing to contribute .. perhaps
> edit one paragraph of doco, or add one library routine,
> or tweak some part of the compiler .. ??
>
> * RF found the format invasive enough to resist commiting
> his code for over 6 months.
>
> * I find the task of adding new test cases fairly daunting
>
> But hey .. i WROTE interscript. And i've used it for
> about 15 years (since Python 1.5.2).
>
> OTOH I cringe when I think of 'de-interscripting' the system,
> let along somehow 'devolving' the build system.
>   

de-interscripting the system would be pretty simple. All it would 
require is just not running the interscript phase, and modifying "umk 
cleanup" and "umk virgin" to not delete everything. Oh, but then there's 
all those interscript macros we'd lose...

That said, it does make sense for certain things, such as the tutorial. 
On the other hand, scaring away potential developers is probably worse 
than that is better.


> So I'm turning around Erick's love of web for chatting to another
> view: a Felix module is a file accessed by a URL.
>
> No separate docs (but CSS, XSLT, or other stuff are cool tools
> to help interpret it!)
>
> So roughly: Felix code is basically a source code wiki.
> That way everyone can just edit code via the web.
>
> Oh, and the application to do this .. is a cool project
> to do in Felix!
>
> Ppl we need something radical! Like the paper clip,
> spreadsheet, blog, wiki, etc ..
>   
On a slightly less radical idea, what about putting together the first 
felix application? We could copy the other scripting languages and put 
together another web framework. It would certainly be interesting what 
one could do with our fibres, threads, and type safety. It'd give us a 
series of targets to meet, which might give new comers an idea on how 
they could contribute.

-e

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