It could be even more complicated. A couple of pages I came across suggest that the immune system should be up to snuff if taking Doxycycline. I don't know much about these sources though, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

From: http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_vibramycin.html

Doxycycline does not kill bacteria, it merely curtails their ability to reproduce. For the invading bacteria to be killed, the host's immune system must be active and effective. This may not be the best choice medication for immune compromised patients.

 

From: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Oasis/6455/doxy-amox.txt

I think this relates to lyme disease in humans, but should apply here.

Doxycycline prevents the bacteria from reproducing but does not directly kill the bacteria - it weakens them and they die or are killed by the immune system.  This is what is referred to as bacteriostatic action and is dependent on a well functioning immune system.  But if the immune system has been adversely affected by the disease or antibiotics, then it might not be able to cope with the bacteria.  On the other hand, amoxicillin, a penicillin, is bactericidal, meaning that it directly kills the bacteria, and does so while they are dividing (replicating).  This may be the reason that amoxicillin has worked so well for me - it does not depend on a fully functioning immune system.

 

Then from: http://www.vetmedonline.com/Pharmacy.html

Baytril has poor activity against anaerobic type bacteria.  Resistance can occur so culturing the lesion or infected fluid is important.

Is Hemobatonellosis anaerobic? I'll have to find out more about this.

 

Here's prescribing info from Doxycycline.com:  http://www.doxycycline.com/prescribing.htm

They don�t' mention anything about the immune system needing to be good. Then again I'm not sure who these people are - not the manufacturer.

 

This stuff is maddening, isn't it? I'll ask my vet tomorrow why he chose Baytril.

 

Also it appears that iron and other minerals might interfere with absorption of both Doxycycline and Baytril.

 

From: http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_enrofloxacin.html

Medications or supplements containing iron, zinc, magnesium or aluminum will bind enrofloxacin and prevent absorption into the body. Such medications should be separated from enrofloxacin (Baytril) by at least two hours.

 

and http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_vibramycin.html

Antacids commonly contain calcium, which binds Doxycycline in the GI tract. If these medications are used together, neither may be absorbed properly and the benefits of both are lost. Iron containing vitamin supplements produce the same problem. (Iron supplements are often used concurrently with Doxycycline to treat "Feline Infectious Anemia.� Administration of these two medications should be separated by a couple of hours.)

 

So I think I'll do the Pet Tinc separately - if at all. Unless I can get enough of it mixed into her food, I'd have to force feed, which might be too traumatic for the added benefit to everything else I'm about to do. Then add the possible antibiotic interference thing. I'll have to weigh this one out.

 

Okay I'll stop now. I don't know why every time I type something, it turns into a novel.

 

Thanks for all the help!

 

-Melbeach

 
----- Original Message -----
From: catatonya
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: New FeLV+ Cat, transfusion yesterday. Please see blood results.

Hmmmmmmmmm.  Like I said, I don't know.  I just know many on the list only had success with the doxy.
 
tonya

Sue Feldbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Baytril was the only antibiotic that worked for my cat's hemobart.

>From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: New FeLV+ Cat, transfusion yesterday. Please see blood
>results.
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:51:39 -0800 (PST)
>
>Evidently Baytril doesn't work for hemobart like the doxy does. I don't
>know why scientifically, but it's what I've learned from the list.
>
>tonya
>
>Melbeach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>Thanks alot you guys for taking the time to offer your knowledge. I really
>appreciate the help!
>
>Well I've been cramming my brains out the last couple days, so more of this
>is
>making sense. This site in particular has provided a lot of very useful
>info.
&g! t;To answer a couple of your questions:
>
> > Did your vet test for hemobartenella? Better yet is he treating for it,
>the
>test often comes back negative even though the cat really is positive. I
>think
>the preferred antibiotic for hemo is doxocycline (sp?), many vets will
>prescribe it even if the test comes back negative because it won't hurt
>anything and may very well save Brissle's life if she shows a false
>negative.
>
>That's funny you ask, because I thought the same thing. There could be a
>small
>chance that the anemia was caused by haemobartonellosis and the FeLV just
>happened to already be there. When I saw my vet this morning, I asked him
>this
>question. He hadn't tested specifically for haemobartonellosi, but he had
>given her Baytril already on Friday and Saturday and just gave me a new
>bottle.
>
> > I'm not sure what your vet mean! t by being concerned about "lymph
>issues."
>Did he mean he thought Brissle might have lymphoma or cancer of the
>lymphatic
>system??
>
>That was poor wording and ignorance on my part. He had pointed out the high
>L/M figure as a point of concern when going over the report. But after
>discussing it today, he wasn't diagnosing it as lymphoma or cancer.
>Actually,
>we are still not sure of the exact cause of the anemia. Though he strongly
>feels that it's FeLV induced. Hmm. I wonder if I should have that bone
>marrow
>test done. I wonder why he didn't offer? Must be real expensive.
>
>Well my vet wants to combine the Interferon and Immunoregulin therapies. He
>wasn't too keen about the steroids because of side effects relating to it
>being human form. But I found info about 'recombinant feline
>erythropoietin'
>(rfEPO) here:
>http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/01/7.12.01/feline_epo.html
>Does anyone know anything about this?
>
>So I have a prescription now for the Interferon and will be ordering it
>soon
>from Island Pharmacy. I'm also looking for a source of Immunoregulin (if
>anyone knows one).
>
>I'll be keeping my head up. For now, Brissle is doing well, eating like
>crazy.
>She's real feisty and has the cutest personality. I'm not ready to let go
>without a fight. I'll be watching her closely though. She's been cheerful
>so
>far. But I'm not one of those people that consider pets possessions. If it
>turns to daily suffering, I'll know I did everything I could.
>
>Thanks again guys.
>
>-Melbeach
>
>
>



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