That's adorable! Can you tell I like feisty animals? Another short story for your book? Huh? Hmm?
Nina

tamara stickler wrote:

Here's and odd pill disguiser for you: Marshmellows!
A friend of mine has a cat named Satan, (yeah, I know, but IF YOU ONLY KNEW HIM -the cat- YOU'D UNDERSTAND..the name is earned!), that could not be pilled. Oh, he'd stand on a freshly delivered pizza covered up to his knees in sauce and cheese, but he'd still find a pill hidden in cheese, pizza sauce, meat..etc...When one day he stole a bag of mini-marshmellows out of the drawer and curled up with them hissing and spittin whenever Angie came close to him....and it dawned on her....little marshmellows. Three years now and Satty gets his happy pill every morning...and there's a little less evil in the house. (But go easy on the candy...too much sugar's not good for a cat!)

*/Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:

    Tamara, you are right about the Pill Pockets… it does not work for
    all cats but if it does it is easy! The strays I was feeding would
    not take them but a little ball of ham, liverwurst, or anything
    sort of smelly—they wolfed up!

    /*/Chris/*/

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    -----Original Message-----
    *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *tamara
    stickler
    *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:51 PM
    *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
    *Subject:* [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Opinions wanted on Royal Canin v.
    Wellness please

    Mari,

    For the record, Coebeio isn't Felv+, I don't know if that makes a
    difference, but it might, so I thought you should know.

    Ok, red dyes. That finding was just by trial and error. It finally
    occured to me that when I feed her something with red dye in
    it...she'd break out around the face and neck & start
    vomitting....not right away...but within several hours...or a day.
    I tested that ...and I'm now very certain that that as well as the
    salmon, shrimp & crab are all contributing factors to her
    break-outs. NOT that she doesn't have them anymore...because she
    does..but they are less frequent.

    Now I only feed her chemical free, human grade, no preservative,
    no antibotic added, free ranged-meat contained foods. It seems to
    be helping somewhat.

    As for canned food, Solid Gold seems the most palitable and best
    quality, healthiest, for Coebeio. They have a website where you
    can order directly: http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/

    As for the allergies....My vet is still trying to help me to
    figure it all out as well. Getting rid of the dyes in the food
    helped. Getting rid of corn in the food helped. Not burning
    scented candles, not using deoterizors in the carpet
    ...helped....trying to limit stress has helped. But yes, she still
    gets breakouts...from time to time, and I just can't figure out
    why. What makes it worse is I haven't been able to get her to the
    vet in ..oh, three years or so. While she is an indoor cat, when
    she doesn't want to be caught...she can't be caught. You can't
    even get close enough to scruff her. I picked her up off the
    street as an adult, and the only reason I was able to then...is
    because she came willingly when I told her to get in the car.

    One thing I will mention tho...not to upset you, but just to keep
    an eye out for...if your cat is frequently going off food that he
    would eat for a few days....Is he urinating more as well? Is he
    drinking more? When is the last time you had blood work done? (My
    Quintapus started that...progressively "picky" eating....turned
    out his kidneys had started to fail.)

    Oh, and with all due respect to Chris, yes try the pill pockets
    (but they cost about $4-5 a pouch), but not one of my animals, or
    my extended family's animals will touch them. I used to hide pills
    in oyster meat, a little bit of tuna or white fish...scallops &
    sardines (rinse the salt) make a nice disguise...or even spam-(but
    only use a little bit spam has a LOT of salt).

    Good luck.

    T



    */Mari Kolbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:

        T:

        Very interesting - how did you ascertain that it was the red
        dyes? I have long suspected that it was the dyes in the
        various foods that have caused many of mine to vomit their
        food so I have been not feeding anything that obviously has
        colored kibble in it. Are all the dyes marked as "Red Dye #xx"
        or are some of them disguised as other chemical names?

        How do Coebeio's allergies manifest themselves? We currently
        have a four year old cerebellar hypoplasia cat who is a manx
        mix totally blind epileptic (his identical sister is totally
        blind and deaf). He was fine up until about a year ago and
        then started digging around his face and neck - literally raw.
        We at first thought earmites and had him checked. All
        parasites, fleas, earmites - negative. His vet says food
        allergies and he has had a series of depo medrol injections
        which did nothing. Vet has had him on several of the different
        single source protein foods - no change. Currently he is on
        Royal Canins special allergy dry food and we are not seeing
        any change.

        We have to feed him canned food as that is the only way to get
        his phenobarbitol into him for his seizures and we tried
        several different allergy canned foods. He will eat them a
        couple of days and then just stop eating - ANYTHING so we have
        gone back to canned cr** food to mix his meds in which I know
        is defeating the purpose. Any ideas on canned food that might
        be better for him that he will eat would be appreciated. He
        has to have the canned food for meds because while he only
        weighs 4#, being blind makes him totally freak if you try to
        administer meds to him any other way. And once he starts to
        panic, it brings on a seizure. (Little stinker won't eat the
        Eagle Pack canned and our Petco's quit carrying the Solid Gold
        which he would eat a few months ago.......)

        Thanks again, T, for your input.

        /mari

        On 6/22/05, *tamara stickler* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

        Mari,

        I feed Coebeio the hairball formula. She has horrible
        allergies, but it seems to be easy on her stomach and she
        likes it. Plus when Quintapus was alive, I bought it because
        it was low in phosphorous and he had CRF. Coey also eats the
        chicken, mixed in from time to time to keep her interest.

        A lot of cat foods have salmon or shell fish in them and oddly
        enough, Coebeio is allergic not to the grains, but to red food
        dye (which like the dyes in lipstick- comes from fish oil),
        salmon and shell fish.

        I also feed high quality cat canned food, such as : Solid
        Gold, Eagle pack, Merrick.

        Hope this helps.

        T



        */Mari Kolbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>/* wrote:

            T:

            Which Eagle Pack are you feeding? We have several with
            allergies and are having trouble finding a food that truly
            makes a difference. Someone gave me two different dry
            formula Eagle Pack foods and both had grains in them. Do
            you feed canned also?

            /mari (Spirit Cat)



            On 6/21/05, *tamara stickler* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
            <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

            Kerry,

            Personally speaking, my cats did better on Wellness than
            Royal Canin. They like(d) both tho. I now feed Eagle Pack
            (because of Coebeio's allergies-she does better on it),
            BUT, I use other high quality cat foods, Wellness...Royal
            Canin, Wysong, Newmans, as treats instead of buying the
            more expensive cat "treats" that are basically just corn
            and by-products. Besides...two 6lb bags will last you 12
            months or more...for say...$20 total...when cat treats are
            what(?) $2 per pouch and that only lasts about a week.

            Just a thought.

            T


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